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$ 0.10 360 sng turbo january challenge. - Wed Dec 28, 2011, 10:53 AM
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My January Challenge thread.

Goals:

1. To make my initial investment of $2.5 to $25 after 100 Games.
2. To reached more than 10% of FT
3. To win at least 5 Tournament.
4. To reached 50% ITM

WISH ME LUCK!!!
 
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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:38 AM
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Take some practice and this 1 went well.

PokerStars Tournament #491944980, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $0.09/$0.01 USD
360 players
Total Prize Pool: $32.40 USD
Tournament started 2011/12/30 14:53:04 MSK [2011/12/30 5:53:04 ET]


Dear PINOY_HITMAN,

You finished the tournament in 4th place. A USD 2.75 award has been credited to your Real Money account

Hope got some good run like this next year
 
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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 12:15 PM
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you will not get 50% ITM a good ITM will be like 15% to 25% , with a field of 360 it is more likely your ITM will be from a 12% to 18% range
I would be happy with a 16% to 18% ITM anything over that and I would be very pleased
thats for a standard field of 360

another way to look at it you always have a 1 in 360 chance of being in 1st place
 
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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 12:36 PM
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you will not get 50% ITM a good ITM will be like 15% to 25% , with a field of 360 it is more likely your ITM will be from a 12% to 18% range
I would be happy with a 16% to 18% ITM anything over that and I would be very pleased
thats for a standard field of 360

another way to look at it you always have a 1 in 360 chance of being in 1st place
Ok Chris i'll keep in mind (12%-18%) as standard and 1/360 to win the game.

I'll try to double the standard just to keep my standard game tighter because i have a tendency to play around and leak some chips.
 
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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 01:42 PM
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ok cowboy is ITM at 23% one of the highest I have seen
cowboy is 19honu62
one of his students is also running at 23% ITM
however they are playing 45 + 90 man s+g's
so 1 in 45 or 1 in 90 for 1st
45 man is 7/45 for ITM ... 7 places pay
90 man is 12/45 for ITM ... 12 places pay
360 man is 36/360 for ITM .. 36 places pay
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one of my friends plays only 90 man s+g's
90 man s+g's pay off twice as nice as 45 man s+g's
yet the field is not so large that its really difficult to place
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.180 man and higher are harder to beat
but the higher the number of entrants typically the greater the payoffs
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now you were playing 6 man s+g's earlier
I think
that inflates your ITM
1 out of 6 chance for 1st place
360 man you got 1 out 360 chance to be first
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however
you have a good thing on your side
you are watching spacegravy videos correct ?
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if you are ....ask yourself when deciding to play a hand
what would space gravy do
then act accordingly
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a lot of pros are turning profit at 15% ITM
that is rather difficult
typically they play a range of buy ins
such as $10.00 to $250.00 buy ins
so a hit on $250.00 buy in recovers lots of losses from $5.00 and $10.00 buy ins
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micro stakes guys tend to play 1 or 2 levels
which means a micro stakes players needs to be 16% to 22% ITM
unless the micro stakes is a large field such as 360 man
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.360 man 10 cent buy in 1st place = $6.80
thats hmmmmm 68 buy ins ?
so you must win 1 per 68 to break even
a 10% ITM would be 7 wins per 68
a 20% ITM would be 14 wins per 68
ok ok 6.8 wins
as I said 7 wins
lets look at a mix of wins

6.80
4.86
3.66
2.75
1.87
1.45
1.13
0.81
0.61

thats 1st through 9th
so lets say you play 90 games and win a 1st through 9th once each
90 games times 10 cents = $9.00

1st thru 9th = $89.28
as you can see its tough to turn a profit at 10 % ITM
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my advice
hmmmmmmmm
well boku87 did start with the 10 cents 360 man
but they now have 25 centers and 50 centers
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If I had the bank for it I would start by playing nothing but 25 cent 90 mans
I would also watch spacegravy videos once per cweek or twice per week
Also I would try to maintain 4 s+g's running at one time with a goal of 12 to 20 s+g's per day
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thats just me
hope this helps to let you see this in a different light
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if not you can all go to @#$#$%%%^&&&^^%$%$##
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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:02 PM
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Ok Chris i got your point, that the bigger the field the tougher it gets.

I choose the 360 to simulate the variance of the the regular tourney.

I'm taking this challenge to improve and sharpen my game not to build my bankroll but if it does it's a bonus.
I want to build my confidence which i think is lacking on my game but not to be over confident.

It's a long month challenge so 5-10 Games per day as i have a regular job almost everyday but sometimes i can snick in 1-2 games while at work

I agree with a field of 360 it is more likely your ITM will be from a 12% to 18% range.

Wish me Luck
 
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Sun Jan 01, 2012, 01:10 AM
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Got a bad starts

I multitable it with 4-5 tables up.

1st 10 with only 1 cash (16th place) for $0.35.

I'll try two table at a time since it's a month long challenge and hope i can recover.

Wish me luck.
 
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Sun Jan 01, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Playing 360 man s+g's means your ITM will be less than 18% typically . It will be more like 12% to 16% . I think that may be normal for playing only fields of 360. I would say go ahead and play 4 at a time . Every time you bust out one reload another. The thing is the payoffs playing a 360 should be greater than if you were playing a 45 man . for that reason you should be happy with 10% plus in the money. Knowing that you may have to play 100 or more to turn a profit I would continue playing four or more at a time.
After all playing 100 S+G's of 360 man and placing 18% ITM means that you only place in the money 18 times. That means you will lose 82 times. I would try to do it more rapidly as long as I felt I was playing correctly.

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Sun Jan 01, 2012, 02:21 PM
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......You had a 4th place for $2.75 and now a smaller win out of 10 for $0.35 . Thats a total win of
about $3.10 which means if you have played under 31 of them you are showing a profit.
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When you post progress maybe state total played
Starting Bank
Ending Bank
Number of S+G's played
saying you won 35 cents when previously you won $2.75 yet its not mentioned confuses the issue.

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Sun Jan 01, 2012, 02:44 PM
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The $2.75 was won last year while he was practicing for the challenge, and therefore can not be counted in the challenge.

 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 01:10 PM
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The $2.75 was won last year while he was practicing for the challenge, and therefore can not be counted in the challenge.

Thanks Bill for answering. Got busy at work and got tired. Hope tomorrow i got the energy to resume the challenge.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 01:16 PM
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When you post progress maybe state total played
Starting Bank
Ending Bank
Number of S+G's played
saying you won 35 cents when previously you won $2.75 yet its not mentioned confuses the issue.
Starting Bank = $2.50
Number of SNG Played = 10 ($1)
$2.50 - $1(10 Games) + $0.35 (from ITM 6th place)
Ending Bank = $1.85

Thanks for the help Cris
 
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Mon Jan 09, 2012, 01:18 PM
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Starting Bank = $2.50
Number of SNG Played = 10 ($1)
$2.50 - $1(10 Games) + $0.35 (from ITM 6th place)
Ending Bank = $1.85

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Update:

Current Bank = $1.85
Number of SNG Played = 27 ($2.70)
$1.85 - $2.70(27 Games) + $0.43 (13th) + $0.24 (32nd) + $0.27 (22nd) + $0.24 (35th)
+ $0.35 (16th) + $0.27 (25th) + $0.51 (11th) + $0.51 (12th)

(Current Bankroll) $1.85 - $2.70 (27Games Played) = $-0.85 + $2.82 (8x ITM) Profit
Ending Bank = $1.97

ROI (-14.32%)
ITM (+24.32%)

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Mon Jan 09, 2012, 05:21 PM
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Hey Pinoy can you please go to the rules and post your games as stated in the rules as I need to be able to see tourney id's.

Thanks

 
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Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:28 AM
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Hey Pinoy can you please go to the rules and post your games as stated in the rules as I need to be able to see tourney id's.

Thanks

yes i'll do it tonight once i got home, i'm on tablet now and i need some verification on my early tourney on Jan 1st due to time differences.

thanks in advance.

joseph
 
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1. 492832675 0.1 360 37 0 (0.10)
2. 492836300 0.1 360 37 0 (0.20)
3. 492834459 0.1 360 37 0 (0.30)
4. 492838511 0.1 360 37 0 (0.40)
5 .492830736 0.1 360 16 0.35 (0.15)
6. 492840170 0.1 360 37 0 (0.25)
7 .492843688 0.1 360 37 0 (0.35)
8 . 492841735 0.1 360 37 0 (0.45)
9 . 492848172 0.1 360 37 0 (0.55)
10.492845332 0.1 360 37 0 (0.65)
11. 495505888 0.1 360 37 0 (0.75)
12. 495501410 0.1 360 37 0 (0.85)
13. 495509266 0.1 360 37 0 (0.95)
14. 495510844 0.1 360 37 0 (1.05)
15. 495498149 0.1 360 37 0 (1.15)
16 .495504033 0.1 360 37 0 (1.25)
17. 495514061 0.1 360 37 0 (1.35)
18. 495499667 0.1 360 13 0.43 (1.02)
19. 495512502 0.1 360 37 0 (1.12)
20. 495507590 0.1 360 32 0.24 (0.98)
21. 495566324 0.1 360 22 0.27 (0.81)
22. 495580158 0.1 360 37 0 (0.91)
23. 495666583 0.1 360 35 0.24 (0.77)
24. 495705605 0.1 360 37 0 (0.87)
25. 495699159 0.1 360 16 0.35 (0.62)
26. 496165382 0.1 360 37 0 (0.72)
27. 496170930 0.1 360 37 0 (0.82)
28. 496184160 0.1 360 37 0 (0.92)
29. 497328457 0.1 360 37 0 (1.02)
30. 497332754 0.1 360 37 0 (1.12)
31. 497327459 0.1 360 37 0 (1.22)
32. 497331793 0.1 360 37 0 (1.32)
33. 497355125 0.1 360 37 0 (1.42)
34. 497329614 0.1 360 25 0.27(1.25)
35. 497330737 0.1 360 11 0.51 (0.84)
36. 497353916 0.1 360 37 0 (0.94)
37. 497356964 0.1 360 12 0.51 (0.53)

Note: I copy and paste only what is in my excel file so any outside the money will appear as 37th place.
The last column represent Profit as you can see i'm still in red mark after 37 Games.

Summary:

Initial Bankroll = $2.50 ( 25 Games )
1st 25 Games = $ -2.50 + $1.88 (Total earned from 6x ITM) = Deficit of $ -0.62 from the Initial $2.50

37 Games = $ -3.70 + $ 3.17 (Total earned from 9x ITM) = Deficit of $ -0.53 from the Initial $2.50 Bankroll.

Running Bankroll = Ending Bank = $1.97

Last edited by PINOY_HITMAN; Tue Jan 10, 2012 at 01:51 PM..
 
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Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:55 PM
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38 498012435 0.1 360 37 0 (0.63)
39 498010442 0.1 360 37 0 (0.73)
40 498009426 0.1 360 37 0 (0.83)
41 498387313 0.1 360 37 0 (0.93)
42 498399113 0.1 360 37 0 (1.03)
43 498425531 0.1 360 37 0 (1.13)
44 498427966 0.1 360 37 0 (1.23)
45 498432459 0.1 360 37 0 (1.33)
46 498438309 0.1 360 37 0 (1.43)
47 498431418 0.1 360 37 0 (1.53)
48 498433769 0.1 360 37 0 (1.63)
49 498424440 0.1 360 27 0.27 (1.46)
50 498426848 0.1 360 34 0.24 (1.32)
51 498445135 0.1 360 37 0 (1.42)
52 498460281 0.1 360 37 0 (1.52)
53 498465438 0.1 360 37 0 (1.62)
54 498476472 0.1 360 37 0 (1.72)
55 498478580 0.1 360 37 0 (1.82)
56 498459158 0.1 360 37 0 (1.92)
57 498472306 0.1 360 37 0 (2.02)
58 498471220 0.1 360 37 0 (2.12)
59 498491401 0.1 360 37 0 (2.22)
60 498481725 0.1 360 37 0 (2.32)
61 498495624 0.1 360 37 0 (2.42)
62 498485863 0.1 360 37 0 (2.52)
63 498486841 0.1 360 37 0 (2.62)
64 498458097 0.1 360 2 4.86 (2.14)
65 498500198 0.1 360 37 0 (2.04)

Summary:

Initial Bankroll = $2.50 ( 25 Games )
1st 25 Games = $ -2.50 + $1.88 (Total earned from 6x ITM) = Deficit of $ -0.62 from the Initial $2.50
Running Bankroll = Ending Bank = $1.88
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Current Bankroll = $1.88
37 Games = $ -3.70 + $ 3.17 (Total earned from 9x ITM) = Deficit of $ -0.53 from the Initial $2.50 Bankroll.
Running Bankroll = Ending Bank = $1.97
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Current Bankroll = $1.97
65 Games = $ -6.50 + $ 8.54 (Total earned from 1 ITM) = Profit of $ 2.04 from the initial $2.50 Bankroll.
Running Bankroll = Ending Bank = $ 4.54 ($ 2.50 Starting Bankroll + $ 2.04 Profit)

 
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Wed Jan 11, 2012, 09:15 PM
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Keep up the good work. I would love to see someone beat the challenge in these games, I'm not sure that it has ever been done before.
 
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Thu Jan 12, 2012, 06:57 AM
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Thanks Swaxwell for the encouragement.

I'll try to finish it tomorrow after my night shift and hope can get a good run on the 1st 5 tourney.
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:29 AM
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66 499101962 0.1 360 37 0 1.94
67 499373923 0.1 360 37 0 1.84
68 499440042 0.1 360 37 0 1.74
69 499438709 0.1 360 37 0 1.64
70 499441232 0.1 360 37 0 1.54









1st 5 with no luck.

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