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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 03:42 PM
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You stacked off on the flop with one pair and an SPR of about 5. What hands do you really think he's jamming here? Look at his limp/calling range. While most of it misses this flop or at least doesn't hit super hard, a lot of it is now a set, two pair, straight, overs+flush draw, pair+flush draw, and you look pretty terrible against that range. Would he do this with his 88-JJ?

Against a really wide range of : JJ,TT,99,88,77,66,33,54s,54o,76o,76s,KdAd,QdAd,JdA d,TdAd,9dAd,8dAd,QdKd,JdKd,TdKd,9dKd,8dKd,JdQd,TdQ d,9dQd,8dQd,TdJd,9dJd,8dJd,9dTd,8dTd,8d9d,7dAd,7dK d,7dQd,7dJd,7dTd,7d9d,7d8d

I get you having only 45% equity here. This is enough to call if his range really is this wide. If we take out those overpairs 88-TT (but keep JJ), you drop to 36% equity. And if we start removing those semi-bluffy flips you're in terrible shape. So yeah, I'm folding here.


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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 05:32 PM
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preflop: you could raise a little more (my std is 3BB +1BB for each limper). With 2 limpers here, I'd raise to 150.

flop: I like your lead bet here. When the opp shoves over you, we need to look at their previous actions (limp/call). Players will normally limp/call with small pocket pairs or small/mid suited connectors. This flop could easily have given the opp a set or a flush draw, or an outside chance at a straight draw or made straight. They also could have 2 pair.
When the opp shoves here, we can beat a bit of their range, but much of it crushes QQ. You really need to fold this hand here and try to find a situation where you know you're ahead.
It's too early to risk it here.


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