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Did I play my draws well? - Wed Dec 28, 2011, 03:50 PM
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Was it the right move to flat call in position and to play the draws aggressively on flop?

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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 04:23 PM
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No, I think you should have 3b all in on the flop.

The guy is probably not folding I assume since he just check-raised more than half his stack, so your 3b shove is not a semi-bluff (there is no bluff component if he won't fold, in reality he may fold a small % of the time but it's probably minimal).

But you should 3B all in for value. You're in good equity shape vs his range with your combo draw.

If you just flat the check/raise, and he shoves the turn as we'd expect him to, you'll be getting better than 4-1 to call the turn shove based on the size of the pot and his shove size... you're not that big a dog with your combo draw so you have to call the turn as well. But if you get there and it scares him, he might find a fold with the weaker parts of his range on the turn. Since YOU have to play for stacks on the turn no matter what, make sure HE also has to... the only way to do that with 100% certainty is to get his stack in right on the flop before any potentially scary cards appear to give him cold feet. So by 3-betting all in right on the flop you maximize vs. his range by ensuring he can never get away when you get there.


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Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
No, I think you should have 3b all in on the flop.

The guy is probably not folding I assume since he just check-raised more than half his stack, so your 3b shove is not a semi-bluff (there is no bluff component if he won't fold, in reality he may fold a small % of the time but it's probably minimal).

But you should 3B all in for value. You're in good equity shape vs his range with your combo draw.

If you just flat the check/raise, and he shoves the turn as we'd expect him to, you'll be getting better than 4-1 to call the turn shove based on the size of the pot and his shove size... you're not that big a dog with your combo draw so you have to call the turn as well. But if you get there and it scares him, he might find a fold with the weaker parts of his range on the turn. Since YOU have to play for stacks on the turn no matter what, make sure HE also has to... the only way to do that with 100% certainty is to get his stack in right on the flop before any potentially scary cards appear to give him cold feet. So by 3-betting all in right on the flop you maximize vs. his range by ensuring he can never get away when you get there.
Thanks for your comments. My 3bet on the flop is as good as allin as it covers his stack. Once he check raises I figured he is pot committed but unfortunately he folded even after putting 59% of his stack in the pot. The reason I posted the hand was to see if that was the right approach to extracted the maximum value as on the flop I have 57% equity against opp's top 15% range.

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