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Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:51 PM
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preflop: what's your std raise here? a normal std raise is to 150, but if you always do 175, then it's fine. You want to make a std raise to help conceal your hand.

flop: you have ace high, but pick up a flush draw. I like the initial check, but when the opp bets, they most likely hit some part of the board. This means that you're behind in the hand. Call here instead of raising. Save the raise until you get some sort of made hand.
The opp calls your raise, which once again means they have some sort of made hand, which you do not.

turn: you now pick up a gutshot draw along with the flush draw. You still have absolutely nothing but ace high and you know the opp has some sort of made hand, so why bet? Check and see if you hit one of the draws on the river. By shoving, you're putting your tourney life on the line... with absolutely nothing but draws. You don't want to be shoving until you get a made hand.

You got extremely lucky on the river and hit a king, but you played this hand way too aggressively. You want to be betting and building a pot when you're ahead in the hand, not behind.
In this situation, you'd be better off shoving your whole stack preflop than betting the way you did and letting the opp see cards that can hit them.... and you have way too big of a stack to be shoving preflop with AKs with.


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Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Raising preflop is fine if a little large. What's your plan if someone 3-bets or shoves?

You flop pretty amazing. Nut flush draw with two overs. On your stack size you should be happy to get it in against most players. When he donks into you it puts the pot at 625 and you have 1325 behind. Do you know anything about his donk bets? If you make a small raise do you think he might bluff-shove? There are a lot of hands he can be super happy jamming here that you beat. Hands like , , etc. If not I really like just overbet shoving here. You put him to a super tough decision and allow him to make so many mistakes. Do you really think he's donking a set here? If his donking range is weighted toward sets then a call is probably good, but honestly just shoving is soooo profitable. Even if he calls with top pair you have a ton of outs. Even if he has two pair you have a ton of outs. Even against a SET you have a lot of outs! He can call with a WORSE draw (like )! And oh yeah, he can fold too and you add 625 to your stack without a showdown.

The turn gives you a bazillion outs, but it's not certain he'll pay you off if you hit the river, so shoving is definitely best. There's a chance he folds a weak T or 99, and you don't want to allow him to fold if you make a flush (which he just might do). After that flop action he probably doesn't have a set except maybe JJ.

By the way, your title is very misleading as you don't actually have top/top until after the money goes in.


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