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give up or float-big 11 - Mon Jan 02, 2012, 03:32 PM
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no read on villain

it's a push or fold right?

no more floating


 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 04:10 PM
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If he donks the flop and gives up on the turn a lot, then floating totally has merit. However, if you're wrong it will cost you a large amount of your stack. Also, do you float the flop and bet the turn if he checks? Or do you check back the turn since you probably have the best hand anyway and really don't want to get raised? What do you do when he fires the river? I think if you check back the turn after calling the flop you have to call on most rivers.


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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 04:37 PM
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reads would mean a bunch here. Without them and only having 1 overcard, instead of 2 overcards, I think your fold is the correct play.
The opp bets 1/2 pot, so that says to me that they are trying to price out a flush draw (incase you have pkt hearts), which means that they most likely have Qx.
Depending on the opp though (which is where the reads would come into play), they could be doing this with a set, small pair, Ax or air too. They may also fold on later streets too, as Jared stated.

Knowing more about the opponent and how they are playing will make decisions like this much easier.


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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 04:59 PM
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If he donks the flop and gives up on the turn a lot, then floating totally has merit. However, if you're wrong it will cost you a large amount of your stack. Also, do you float the flop and bet the turn if he checks? Or do you check back the turn since you probably have the best hand anyway and really don't want to get raised? What do you do when he fires the river? I think if you check back the turn after calling the flop you have to call on most rivers.
if ever i float i will definitely want my chips back if he checks the turn i will shoves the turn

yes the problem lies if and if he double barrel i definitely have to fold

i just chose the easy exit and wait for my next spot

if only i have something on my opp, i can make a better decision
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 05:02 PM
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reads would mean a bunch here. Without them and only having 1 overcard, instead of 2 overcards, I think your fold is the correct play.
The opp bets 1/2 pot, so that says to me that they are trying to price out a flush draw (incase you have pkt hearts), which means that they most likely have Qx.
Depending on the opp though (which is where the reads would come into play), they could be doing this with a set, small pair, Ax or air too. They may also fold on later streets too, as Jared stated.

Knowing more about the opponent and how they are playing will make decisions like this much easier.
lessons learned no read on opp

get out of the hand as early as possible
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 05:16 PM
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But your AK is usually ahead and a shove will never get called by worse. You can maybe fold out some small pairs, but that's about it. I think I like checking back for pot control, and calling most rivers.


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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 06:28 PM
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But your AK is usually ahead and a shove will never get called by worse. You can maybe fold out some small pairs, but that's about it. I think I like checking back for pot control, and calling most rivers.
but calling means you can't win pot 2 ways. I'm short i need to win the pot on the turn or else he might get a pair on the river then i will call i lose.

i only got AJ
 

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