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What is your opinion ? - Mon Jan 02, 2012, 07:56 PM
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Is this hand a case of being married to your cards ? or a case of can't see the wood for the trees ?

PokerStars Game #73176287877: Tournament #493056321, $0.10+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2012/01/02 16:09:25 ET
Table '493056321 171' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SergeyOKB (910 in chips)
Seat 2: edu_pr_union (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: OLONHO777 (1410 in chips)
Seat 4: eribert (2390 in chips)
Seat 5: cristian1684 (620 in chips)
Seat 6: sabbel jwt (2185 in chips)
Seat 7: shkap (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Bokmal24 (1505 in chips)
Seat 9: Bill Curran (3045 in chips)
SergeyOKB: posts small blind 15
edu_pr_union: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bill Curran [Jh Qs]
OLONHO777: calls 30
eribert: calls 30
cristian1684: folds
sabbel jwt: calls 30
shkap: folds
Bokmal24: folds
Bill Curran: calls 30
SergeyOKB: calls 15
edu_pr_union: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d 8h 6h]
SergeyOKB: bets 90
edu_pr_union: folds
OLONHO777: folds
eribert: calls 90
sabbel jwt: raises 90 to 180
Bill Curran: folds
SergeyOKB: calls 90
eribert: calls 90
*** TURN *** [5d 8h 6h] [5c]
SergeyOKB: bets 210
eribert: calls 210
sabbel jwt: raises 210 to 420
SergeyOKB: calls 210
eribert: calls 210
*** RIVER *** [5d 8h 6h 5c] [7c]
SergeyOKB: bets 180
eribert: raises 1580 to 1760 and is all-in
sabbel jwt: calls 1555 and is all-in
SergeyOKB: calls 100 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (205) returned to eribert
*** SHOW DOWN ***
eribert: shows [4h 3s] (a straight, Four to Eight)
sabbel jwt: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
eribert collected 2550 from side pot
SergeyOKB: shows [9s 9d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
SergeyOKB collected 2820 from main pot
sabbel jwt finished the tournament in 4775th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5370 Main pot 2820. Side pot 2550. | Rake 0
Board [5d 8h 6h 5c 7c]
Seat 1: SergeyOKB (small blind) showed [9s 9d] and won (2820) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 2: edu_pr_union (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: OLONHO777 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: eribert showed [4h 3s] and won (2550) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 5: cristian1684 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sabbel jwt showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 7: shkap folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Bokmal24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bill Curran (button) folded on the Flop





I can see the guy with 4 3 taking a chance that no one has a nine, but what I don't get is the guy with AA.. How can he think that he has the best hand with that board ?

 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 08:46 PM
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:02 PM
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calling with rockets with 2 limpers in the pot is a is a disaster in the making

Bad play

of course he's married to his cards, he want more players in the pot so that he could win as many chips as possible he limps because he wants more passengers.

Bad Bad Play

if only he knew that he can raise PRE
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Hell, this is tricky, I thought I had posted this in this section.

Having gone back to find the original post, I now realise that you have to enter the hidden section before posting.

 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:06 PM
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very interesting.. in a not so good way for your opps. I'd be making a bunch of notes on the play of these opps to use against them in the future.

preflop: I can see the opp with 99 limping after everyone else. The player with AA should absolutely be raising preflop. 34o limping being the 2nd person into the pot is really loose.

flop: the 99 player leads out with an overpair and gutshot straight draw (what they should do). 34 opp calls with OESD, not bad, as they've got equity. The AA opp raises, but not enough.

turn: replay of the flop basically. 99 leads, 34 calls, AA raises, both call

river: both the 34 and 99 make straights and the AA opp has two pair. I don't get the bet by the player with 99 here. They hit top straight and make a very small lead bet. This opp should be making a value bet with the straight. With a pair and 4 to a straight on the board, the AA player should drop right here, as someone most likely has a straight (or worse for them, a full house). I can understand the 34 player calling, as they do have bottom straight.

I think the AA player was married to the hand and misplayed it by not raising pre, more on the flop and more on the turn. By keeping the pot small, they let the others stay in the pot and they both hit a straight.


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Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:09 PM
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Hell, this is tricky, I thought I had posted this in this section.

Having gone back to find the original post, I now realise that you have to enter the hidden section before posting.

not a problem Bill. We'll take care of it for you The easiest way is to click on the sub forum that says 'Tournament Hand Analysis'. This is a good one for you to post, as many can learn from it. Keep it up and good luck at the felt


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aa v 99 v 34 - Tue Jan 03, 2012, 12:59 AM
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passive poker rears it head aa limp possibly when early positon to loose raisers behind but the post flop weak patheic raise got what it deserved , and both 99 and 43 fished a result and of course 43 overbet was only getting looked up by 99,, as for aa either he was very very tired or he s on the early stages of developement
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 02:26 AM
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river: both the 34 and 99 make straights and the AA opp has two pair. I don't get the bet by the player with 99 here. They hit top straight and make a very small lead bet. This opp should be making a value bet with the straight.
not sure if serious.
bets 180 leaving 100 behind in 4k+ pot, where he has been reraised on both streets.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 03:19 AM
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well like the other guys already mentioned the A A hand put up the worst play here ,but i think the BB with the poket 9's made a mistake too preflop by just calling . i think atleast a 4 bb raise after 2 limpers would off been better there ( not knowing the guy has the aces).this is just my opinion offcourse .
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 11:37 AM
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not sure if serious.
bets 180 leaving 100 behind in 4k+ pot, where he has been reraised on both streets.
making top straight and betting 180 into a 4k+ pot with 100 behind... they should have just shoved to start with.


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