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is it ok to call a raise then float then fold-$3.5R 180man sng - Tue Jan 03, 2012, 07:22 PM
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opp doesn't seem to play much

the time he played i saw AA

so i got a little bit tentative about my hand



PRE - I flat for set mining at the same time. I don't want to 3bet because I'm not ready to go all in if he jams. I think I have enough chips to let go of my TT if he continued aggression.

postflop - I have OP I don't know but I'm not that confident with my hand, he continued to bet so I float and look if he will continue. Still i don't like to 3bet because I'm not ready to bust out with TT against my opp

turn - he keeps betting i give up

Am I too tight against tight opp

or i should have just 3bet/fold PRE just to make sure if im ahead or not

or at the post flop 3bet/fold

what is the best?
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 07:38 PM
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I think you played this hand perfectly. He's probably not firing multiple barrels with worse than your hand.

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or at the post flop 3bet/fold
You can't 3-bet. You can only raise, call or fold. If you raise and he reraises that's a 3-bet.


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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 07:50 PM
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I think you played this one pretty good too. The way the opp bet, they probably have AK, KQs, set, or higher pkt pair than you.

If they had a mid pair, they should have slowed down when the K hit, because a K is definitely in your range too (you didn't have one, but the opp doesn't know that).


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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 08:43 PM
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I think you played this hand perfectly. He's probably not firing multiple barrels with worse than your hand.



You can't 3-bet. You can only raise, call or fold. If you raise and he reraises that's a 3-bet.
PRE - what i mean about 3bet is because he's raising I will 3bet him then if he 4bet shoves i will fold

Post flop - he bets again I want to 3bet him because i have OP then fold if he 4bet shoves

Turn - if I 3bet will not reach at this point

is this play - +EV so that I'm sure if he's strong or just believe in my read and play safely
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012, 09:16 PM
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Post flop - he bets again I want to 3bet him because i have OP then fold if he 4bet shoves
You mean you want to raise and then fold to a 3-bet shove? I'm talking about definitions, not EV.


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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 01:32 AM
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You mean you want to raise and then fold to a 3-bet shove? I'm talking about definitions, not EV.
No, I'm in position here.

he's the one raising first so my question is

PRE - UTG raise first I 3bet then fold to 4bet shove

or just call PRE then postflop he bet first I 3bet but fold to 4bet shove

so that I'll have a little bit of info that I'm really beat

but is it ok to 3bet/fold just curious?
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 12:09 PM
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what is he saying is if he bets and you raise, that is not a 3 bet. Its just a raise.
if he bets and you raise, and he reraises you, THAT is a 3 bet.
The reason it isnt like that preflop is the blind is concidered the first bet . So ya know
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 02:21 PM
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what is he saying is if he bets and you raise, that is not a 3 bet. Its just a raise.
if he bets and you raise, and he reraises you, THAT is a 3 bet.
The reason it isnt like that preflop is the blind is concidered the first bet . So ya know
thank you for clarrifyng that

i just learned this

1bet 2bet before 3bet yes I know I'm so stupid but not now I learned my lesson

im not stupid anymore

thank you for correcting my mistake. appreciate it
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Not stupid at all marvin. Just uninformed. Ignorance can be learned away, stupid is forever..
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 03:37 PM
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Not stupid at all marvin. Just uninformed. Ignorance can be learned away, stupid is forever..
well said
 

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