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analye please where did i go wrong - Wed Jan 04, 2012, 10:56 PM
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PokerStars Hand #73308380749: Tournament #554010963, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2012/01/04 22:33:01 ET
Table '554010963 137' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: n@m1979 (14058 in chips)
Seat 2: isma_ferrari (30361 in chips)
Seat 3: Lando sk8 (8700 in chips)
Seat 4: DRUIDAVPT (19560 in chips)
Seat 5: kisel1986 (5008 in chips)
Seat 6: PMT1966 (9554 in chips)
Seat 7: ruleboyzrude (3073 in chips)
Seat 8: mhp007 (7345 in chips)
Seat 9: holdemace486 (12856 in chips)
n@m1979: posts the ante 30
isma_ferrari: posts the ante 30
Lando sk8: posts the ante 30
DRUIDAVPT: posts the ante 30
kisel1986: posts the ante 30
PMT1966: posts the ante 30
ruleboyzrude: posts the ante 30
mhp007: posts the ante 30
holdemace486: posts the ante 30
Lando sk8: posts small blind 125
DRUIDAVPT: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to holdemace486 [Ac Ah]
kisel1986: folds
PMT1966: calls 250
ruleboyzrude: folds
mhp007: folds
holdemace486: raises 1250 to 1500
n@m1979: calls 1500
isma_ferrari: folds
Lando sk8: calls 1375
DRUIDAVPT: folds
PMT1966: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c 4s 2s]
Lando sk8: bets 2000
holdemace486: raises 3250 to 5250
n@m1979: raises 7278 to 12528 and is all-in
Lando sk8: folds
holdemace486: calls 6076 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1202) returned to n@m1979
*** TURN *** [6c 4s 2s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [6c 4s 2s 5s] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
holdemace486: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
n@m1979: shows [Ks 9s] (a flush, King high)
n@m1979 collected 29922 from pot
holdemace486 finished the tournament in 975th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 29922 | Rake 0
Board [6c 4s 2s 5s 8s]
Seat 1: n@m1979 showed [Ks 9s] and won (29922) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: isma_ferrari (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lando sk8 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: DRUIDAVPT (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kisel1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PMT1966 folded before Flop
Seat 7: ruleboyzrude folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mhp007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: holdemace486 showed [Ac Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
 
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here is is man !!! - Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:22 PM
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thanking skinny appreciated,
did i play this right or wrong this is more or less how i always lose
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:31 PM
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i think you played it perfectly but your opp made a loose call w K9s and willing to gamble with Flush draw

you lost that hand now but you will win that hand most of the time.

that's why we play poker so that we can profit from your opp. If they are not there profiting in poker will be very hard.

as our Great Teacher said "As a poker player that's all we can do"
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:36 PM
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Your 6x open preflop was a tad on the super-big side, so you might want to tone that down a bit.

But you got your money in good. You actually played it pretty well overall, but you just got unlucky.
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:39 PM
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ty guys appreciated,understood,it kills my confidence needed to know and yes after watching the playback bet was a bit to big maybe thx
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012, 11:55 PM
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Unlucky, nothing else!

Cheers,

TC
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2012, 06:30 AM
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holdem, by your logic in your "variance challenge" thread it is impossible for anyone to correctly analyse this hand unless you also supply us with your results from every time you have been dealt AA in the past, and also your observations of other players receiving AA earlier in the game.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2012, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomcrockpot View Post
holdem, by your logic in your "variance challenge" thread it is impossible for anyone to correctly analyse this hand unless you also supply us with your results from every time you have been dealt AA in the past, and also your observations of other players receiving AA earlier in the game.
omg i played the percentages like you lot said i shoud,i played it right and was done over again as per normal so anyway just forget it not boithered any more no disrepect to you but pso is only ere to keep it sweet to put down people like me who play proper poker and get stuffed all the time,ive tried lag ive tried tag and none off it works its all just a waste of time
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2012, 10:09 AM
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All you can do is console yourself with the knowledge that you made the right play, opponent made a bad call preflop (especially considering your monster raise ) and then a bad shove (considering your play reaks or overpair, against which he must know, he's a pretty sizeable dog.).

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Thu Jan 05, 2012, 03:19 PM
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you opened up the poker client?
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2012, 05:11 PM
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Holdemace486,

Here's the way that I would have played it.

Preflop: I want to raise here, but want to make a standard raise (3BB+1BB for each limper), so I would raise to 1k.

Flop: 2 4 6 with two spades, a really bad flop for AA. The first opp leads out for just under 1/2 pot. I agree that AA needs to raise here, but think the raise needs to be at least the size of the pot (7270), if not even shoving first here. The reason for such a large bet is that you want to price out a flush draw for whichever opp has it, and get the other opp to drop.

If both opps stay, then each player will have basically 33% of the chips invested into the pot and with 9 outs, a flush draw has 36% equity (so it's a +EV play to call with a flush draw here).

If the CO shoves here and you call (2k bet player drops), then they have to put 11326 into a pot that will be 29922, or 37.8%. They have 36% equity with the flush draw and if they think a K will win the hand for them, they add another 3 outs or 12% equity, for 48%. These equity numbers make a shove here by them a marginal move if they think that a K will not win the hand for them and is a +EV play if hitting a K will get them the best hand.

The opp could also have a set here, trying to setmine with 22, 44 or 66... in which case, they are ahead and you only have 2 outs.

With AA in this situation, I'm calling their shove, but know that I will lose the pot and be KO'd from the tourney over 1/3 of the time.

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