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opp bet small then jam on my reraise - NL10 - Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:39 PM
marvinsytan's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
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should have just called

opp is loose passive and a losing player

Last edited by marvinsytan; Tue Jan 17, 2012 at 06:43 PM..
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:06 PM
joy7108's Avatar
Since: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,286
I think you're right, just calling on the river would have been the best play. Your hand had pretty good showdown value, but not quite good enough to call that last bet.

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
JDean's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,145
Sorry Marvin, it seems you didn't click the "request evaluation" box, and this one got sort of lost...

Pre flop, a loose raise on the button in hops of stealing is fine. It is a small amount to try a "fit or fold" line versus a passive station type that will pay you off for your risk well.

On the flop, I love the check: you have nuclear squadoosh, with a gut shot draw and 2 baby cards.

The turn, I love the bet sizing, as it is pretty likely you are in front. If the opp is station-y, it is also quite likely he will miss the possibility that you may have raised on 53, and pay you the extra amount. You didn't get TOO greedy, but you also didn't stick to a half pot either...nice.

River; meh.

The passive villain suddenly leads on the 3rd heart. Had you bet on the flop, it might be un-likely he is station-y enough to get to a turn heart draw, but as played, it is possible he did. He leads small, 20c, and you raise...

That I do not like really; it usually takes a passive player hitting a hand he is really sure is best to make him start betting. the likeliest hand to fit the bill as 'big enough" to start betting here is the heart flush. That crushes you.

It can be quite dangerous to re-open the betting after a donk lead in a "scare card" situation for your holding on deep money. Doing that, rather than flatting the donk lead on the river, can result in a huge river bluff, or a big river value bet by the opp that you might find hard to muck to. If YOU were on a nut flush, then a value raise is fine, but on a straight...it is a sick making situation.
You certainly have showdown value, in case the guy waited until the river to bet a set, so you can call the 20c. But it is quite dangerous and costly to raise into a passive station type here on this depth of money...you saw the danger trigger: A huge over bet you simply cannot call.

On the bright side Marvin, you could have been stubborn yourself in this somewhat small pot and lost a ton. With the info you provide, calling that huge river 3bet is about the only thing that was likely to happen if you called that big bet.

Hope it helps.


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