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Facing 4bet with JJ - Wed Jan 18, 2012, 07:32 AM
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I had a hard time ranging this guy. I decided to fold even though I had a pretty good price to call, because I felt that he could have AQ+ or QQ+, in which case I would be flipping at best. I had no particular reads on him except for his stats. He had 0% fold to 3bet out of 2, but he just called those other times. Should I have done something differently?

Btw, I won this tournament.
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:48 PM
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HI Feskprins!

JJ, a hand that almost always is in a sticky sitaution.

UTG min raises, then JJ 3-bets (which is exactly what I'd do in this situation). JJ plays much better against 1 player than 3, so I'd want to raise to try and thin the field some.

UTG then 4-bets. It looks like the opp is just hitting min-raise every time, but this is a very stong play by this opp. Due to this, I absolutely like your fold here and would do the exact same thing myself. The range that you give, AQ+ or QQ+.... I can see AQ+ flatting the 3-bet, but I think that the raise puts them more on QQ+, especially since this is the first 4-bet from the opp. If that range is correct, then JJ has two outs, so a fold is the correct play in my eyes.
If the opp had a much smaller stack than me, then I might try it, but not to a larger stack where my tourney life would be on the line.

Great fold and congrats on taking down the tourney.

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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:21 PM
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Then at least I was on the right track. I posted this just to be sure a call was out of the question. Better safe than sorry.

Thanks!
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 03:40 PM
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Great Job Sir
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Then at least I was on the right track. I posted this just to be sure a call was out of the question. Better safe than sorry.

Thanks!
Hi Feskprins!

All ?'s are good questions. Anything that any player can learn from is a GOOD thing

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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 04:50 PM
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yeah thats a good fold, limp u raise he re raise ??????????????????,i hate those buggers ,gl all the best
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Hi Feskprins!

All ?'s are good questions. Anything that any player can learn from is a GOOD thing

John (JWK24)
True! And you added some stuff to keep in mind if I end up in this situation again.

Thanks again everyone.

Last edited by Feskprins; Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 01:48 AM..
 
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Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:23 AM
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This is something I desperately need to see. Most of the time I lose money is due to my refusal to get off my group one pairs
 

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