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gut feeling gets me into trouble - Fri Jan 20, 2012, 07:07 AM
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Since: Nov 2011
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PokerStars Hand #74103384222: Tournament #502700666, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2012/01/19 10:16:57 UTC [2012/01/19 5:16:57 ET]Table '502700666 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: tijerita90 (4130 in chips) Seat 2: MarBr (525 in chips) Seat 3: holdemace486 (4340 in chips) Seat 4: Piekny Lolo (2480 in chips) Seat 7: duple170 (1500 in chips) Seat 8: PapaVani (1530 in chips) Seat 9: luba305 (6330 in chips) PapaVani: posts small blind 50luba305: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to holdemace486 [8s 8h]tijerita90: folds MarBr: folds holdemace486: raises 100 to 200Piekny Lolo: raises 100 to 300duple170: folds PapaVani: folds luba305: folds holdemace486: calls 100*** FLOP *** [Ac Ts 9s]holdemace486: checks Piekny Lolo: checks *** TURN *** [Ac Ts 9s] [6s]holdemace486: checks Piekny Lolo: checks *** RIVER *** [Ac Ts 9s 6s] [Qc]holdemace486: checks Piekny Lolo: bets 199holdemace486: calls 199*** SHOW DOWN ***Piekny Lolo: shows [Ks Kh] (a pair of Kings)holdemace486: shows [8s 8h] (a pair of Eights)Piekny Lolo collected 1148 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1148 | Rake 0 Board [Ac Ts 9s 6s Qc]Seat 1: tijerita90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: MarBr folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: holdemace486 showed [8s 8h] and lost with a pair of EightsSeat 4: Piekny Lolo showed [Ks Kh] and won (1148) with a pair of KingsSeat 7: duple170 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: PapaVani (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: luba305 (big blind) folded before Flop

looking quiet on here so thought ide dig you one out for analysis,
the opp was tag and i had a gut feeling he missed the board and this is what happened thoughts please
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 09:33 AM
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Since: Dec 2011
Posts: 340
Please use the hand replayer - this is almost unreadable

As for the hand: raising with the medium pair in MP - I can think of worse things to do with it. The size of your bet, well, nit my thing. There's 150 in the piot in blinds, you're minraising to 200, so the first caller gets good odds to call, and everyone else gets fantastic odds. The next guy then minraises you, and you call, which I don't have a problem with. The odds for setmining are well in your favor.
The rest of the hands is played very very passively. You check to the raiser, who then checks back. I would have made a half-potsize bet on the turn. If he folds, yay me. If he doesn't, I'm done. The turn was good for your hand, but if any overcard hits the river, he could be holding that. Although with his minraises I probably put him on a pair, possibly higher than yours, or a lonely ace. In both cases I'm probably beat.

I think you got away cheap here losing only 600.

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Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,841
Hi Holdemace!

Please use the replayer, or if it won't work for a hand, please try to make the post readable. Thanks!

Preflop: I don't like min raises in these types of situations. If I'm going to open a pot, I try to always make a standard raise, especially when out of position, which for this level is to 300. If the table was being very loose passive, I might consider limping, but I don't like to open-limp. I would call the min raise by the opp here with a pocket pair.

Flop: A 10 9 which is a miss for 88. Due to this, I'm checking the flop.

Turn: 6 This now would give me a pocket pair and a gutshot straight draw. I normally don't like checking two streets in a row, so I'd make a value bet here since the opp checked the flop and I'd size it at about 300-350. If the opp has a hand, they should be raising here, and if so, then I can muck 88 here.

River: Q which now puts four overcards on the board. I'm checking here and if the opp called a turn value bet from me, if they bet the river, I'm mucking, as I know I'm beat.

The opp played this hand very passively for KK. If I was the opp, with the actions that you took, I would have raised to 600 preflop, checked or c-bet the flop and value bet the turn if I checked the flop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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