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Me sharking a shark - Sat Jan 21, 2012, 06:38 AM
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PokerStars Hand #74217864782:
Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2012/01/21 11:11:17 UTC [2012/01/21 6:11:17 ET]Table 'Edmee III' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: holdemace486 ($2.85 in chips)
Seat 3: sir1535 ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 4: TGKJumper ($2.30 in chips)
Seat 5: moiseev1975 ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 6: sspectator2 ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 9: cfyz73 ($0.43 in chips)
TGKJumper: posts small blind $0.01
moiseev1975: posts big blind $0.02end82:
sits out H3RTHA: sits out pesmersedes: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to holdemace486 [4s 2s]
sspectator2: folds
cfyz73: calls $0.02
holdemace486: calls $0.02
sir1535: folds
TGKJumper: raises $0.06 to $0.08
moiseev1975: folds
cfyz73: calls $0.06
holdemace486: calls $0.06*
** FLOP *** [2d Kh 2c]
TGKJumper: bets $0.18
cfyz73: folds
holdemace486: raises $0.26 to $0.44
TGKJumper: raises $0.56 to $1
holdemace486: raises $0.56 to $1.56T
GKJumper: raises $0.66 to $2.22 and is all-in
holdemace486: calls $0.66
*** TURN *** [2d Kh 2c] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [2d Kh 2c 9h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***T
GKJumper: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
holdemace486: shows [4s 2s] (three of a kind, Deuces)holdemace486 collected $4.47 from pot***

SUMMARY ***Total pot $4.70 | Rake $0.23 Board [2d Kh 2c 9h 7s]Seat 1: holdemace486 showed [4s 2s] and won ($4.47) with three of a kind, DeucesSeat 3: sir1535 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: TGKJumper (small blind) showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and DeucesSeat 5: moiseev1975 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: sspectator2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: cfyz73 folded on the Flop

Hi all have tidyed it up for you the best i can see for analasys.
heres the situation i all ready determined my opp is a multiplayer shark,and he was only playing premium hands,i knew i had posistion on him and a gut feeling he had the aces,or maybe kk,but more likely the aces in my eyes,the flop comes 2k2,yes i was confident i could take his chips.
he bets out 18c i reraise to 44c
the op then reraises to 1 doller
at this stage i paused
i looked at his bet size and though to myself he knows i was playing quite tag
and thought he had put me on something like kq,ak
so i then opted for another reraise 1.56 as i put him on defo aa and not kk
i thought surely he would of shipped if he had the house to my first raise
he then raises all in
got him

was this the way to play it?
should i have been more caucious?
should i have folded my set?
should i be mixing 42s against aces?

thx look forward to some good thoughts.
 
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Sat Jan 21, 2012, 06:43 AM
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tell a lie just checked his rankings woops not really much of a shark,but he was multiplaying about 15 tables lol another lesson learnt but he still was only playing premium hnds
 
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Sat Jan 21, 2012, 07:55 AM
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Hello HEA486!

You are becoming quite a reg in this forum, and I for one like that! Thanks!

I must say HEA486, even though you are on the button here, this is not really a good spot to speculate with 24s...

Whenever you enter with a hand like 42s, especially against a TIGHT PLAYER, you really cannot be relying on your pair value; 4 hi will almost never hit top pair on a flop, and if it does you are far too likely to be facing an over pair. You will only flop 2 pair+ about 5.0% of the time total (using both your cards, as opposed to pairing a 4 and seeing 33 on the flop), so the most likely continuable flop you'll see with a hand like 42s is some sort of DRAW.

The fact is, a case CAN be made for taking this flop heads up versus just the tight player's range with a speculative drawing type hand (although personally I'd stick to 65s+) versus his raise, but the presence of the SHORT STACK caller ahead of you saps any real playability of a draw flop for you. Against just the raiser, the fact he is tight may mean you can either win a very large pot if a draw gets there, or possibly semi bluff a strong draw from position and not even have to get there (if/when he misses his Ace/Big hands). That short stack though is far too likely to make a "stand" with any top pair type hit in a pot that has grown to half his stack (roughly) pre flop. If you see a bet by the raiser, and a jam by the short stack, ANY draw you may have flopped with 42s becomes quite dice-y to play.

So bottom line as I see it, is that you really should be looking at ALL the stacks who have stayed to see the flop, not just 1 of them.

AS PLAYED...

You got pretty lucky to flop 1 of those "5% hands", and bink trip 2's with a K.

When TGKJumper leads for 18c (about 75% pot), your raise is fine. You make it a bit under 1.5 times more than his raise to call.

While KK is in this players range per your info, it is really quite un-likely that a better 2 is there. This means you'd have been totally going against the reasoning behind playing 24s at all if you do not think you are raising for value now. I quite like the fact you stayed at the low end of a standard re-raise amount here, as that may keep some of the hands like QQ/JJ in his range from insta-folding, whereas he'd have to credit you with at least a K if you bet larger. Nice job.

When the villain 3bets, I do not mind your small 4bet...at that point it is moot for you really: whether you flat, you raise small, or you go all in, you are never folding (at least I hope you are never folding ), and the villain is probably never folding either.

So except for the thoughts I brought up about the questionable situation in calling pre flop on this hand HEA486, I think you played it fine.

Hope it helps.

-JDean


Double Bracelet Winner

Last edited by JDean; Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 07:59 AM..
 
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Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:22 AM
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thats pretty much how it was jd ,yes was never going to fold once ive flopped,preflop yes i did forget the other player must stop doing that,thx again great analysis
 
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Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:37 AM
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