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Hello everybody! - Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:21 PM
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Hello PSO Community,

my name is Alexander and I'm from Germany. I've been playing poker for a couple of years, mostly No Limit fullring cashgames at various limits.

I'm excited to be a new member here and join PSO's team of hand analyzers. I hope to see some of you guys over there in the No Limit hand discussion forum to talk poker with you

Cheers,
Alexander
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:30 PM
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what sites did you play on before? Stars activity is very limited, also under what names? like to know who is analyzing our hands since we all know each other and their games here
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:46 PM
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I played mostly on Stars for the last 5 years. Right now, I play Smallstakes Fullring cashgames. This account is only for posting here in the PSO community, I can't play with it. My "real" account is linked to the German PSO site called "Intellipoker".
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:59 PM
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really? I typed in B!gSl!ck3r and got stats....
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:00 PM
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I forgot welcome to the forum!
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:04 PM
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I'm starting to feel bad for him

he hasn't been around an hour and has already been downgraded to hand analyzer from super moderator

 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:15 PM
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better hope his computer works right
 
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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:50 PM
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Hello Alex,

Welcome to PSO. Quite a rough introduction but not really surprising when your first post is a tutorial on how to post hands for review. The normal procedure, in the past, as far as I am aware was for the Head Trainer (TheLangolier) to introduce new recruits, whether those internally or from the German platform.

In the case of xflixx, it was certainly a success and there is no doubt that Felix is a trainer/coach of the very highest calibre.

In my view, however, the introduction of multiple trainers from the German platform is a retrograde step. I can remember the time, in the not too distant past, that anyone who played on PokerStars with an Intellipoker avatar was immediately marked as having “a low level of skill” (I cannot quite remember where I coined that phrase from). The change of skill level did not occur overnight and Intellipoker.de owes much of its success to the internal recruitment of trainers from its own player pool and the organic growth of the site. The site grew as the skill level of the trainers and apropos the users improved in a natural way; organically you might say.

What you have with PSO is a similar scenario; most are just at the beginning of their poker journey and I am sure PokerStars wish to replicate that success here both for the site and the members but there are some inherent issues translating that success by just moving a lot of trainers from the German platform.

Firstly, this is a predominately English speaking site, with North Americans, North Europeans and a smattering of Australians and Kiwis and for the most part there are only subtle cultural nuances although often diverse opinions on multiple topics. Maybe I can explain this better from experience. I worked for many years for a huge German company that begins with the letter A. Through expansion and acquisition they have a worldwide presence. What do you think are the nationalities of the CEO say, senior management and the vast majority of employees in France, in Canada, in the UK, in Australia, in Ireland, in Asia, in India, in Africa? I suppose you can guess the answer. The fact is that A immediately recognised that to succeed in other markets, other countries, required different strategies that had to be adapted to that market and that culture. The French CEO off course will report to the German HQ but he will have complete autonomy in the day to day running and decision making within the business.

So in my view PSO is just like a business, you can have the odd specialist here and there to offer, advice and support but if you just try to supplant what is successful in another country into a new country, market or culture, it just does not work.

My opinion is that the majority of trainers should be recruited from those that are progressing within the site. The likes of Panicky Poker, Sandtrap, Grabe B, Marvin and Easy should all be considered as new recruits. The skill level will grow organically, improvement will come, but trying to make it happen without the input and participation of forum members on these matters is not the way to go.

But what do I know, I am just a pleb

Anyway good luck with the training and I would suggest accustomising yourself with all that goes on here and having some clue as to what is going on in the forum, things like the Cowboy Challenge, etc etc. At least if you interact and build some real relationships with the people that use the site you can compose training sessions that suit the needs and abilities of the members and help them improve their game and grow more business for PokerStars.

Cheers,

TC
 
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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:48 PM
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Hello topthecat,

thanks for the really long posting and feedback. I appreciate that.

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Welcome to PSO. Quite a rough introduction but not really surprising when your first post is a tutorial on how to post hands for review.
Actually I'm not sure why this is the case? I was asked to do it (it's a translation of a tutorial I wrote for the German site about two years ago) and think it should be helpful to everybody.

I'm with you in saying that organic growth is important, but it always helps if there is some kind of mix between internal recruiting and fresh faces from the outside. It has been the same way in the past on the German plattform. I'm not 100% sure why I was asked to join the team here, but I guess the site wanted to add another experienced hand reviewer to furher improve a team that already is really good. I don't think nationalities are an issue here, poker is something that connects people from places all over the world.

I understand people being sceptical about somebody joining the team from the outside, but I'm sure everybody's gonna profit from that in the long-term.

@roomik17: Sorry, misunderstood you. Yes, that is my account.

Cheers,
Alexander
 
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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:57 PM
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Hello topthecat,

thanks for the really long posting and feedback. I appreciate that.


Actually I'm not sure why this is the case? I was asked to do it (it's a translation of a tutorial I wrote for the German site about two years ago) and think it should be helpful to everybody.
First? If so then I feel they set you up besides the fact that you originally had the "super moderator" title. They people in charge know this.

I'm with you in saying that organic growth is important, but it always helps if there is some kind of mix between internal recruiting and fresh faces from the outside. It has been the same way in the past on the German plattform. I'm not 100% sure why I was asked to join the team here, but I guess the site wanted to add another experienced hand reviewer to furher improve a team that already is really good. I don't think nationalities are an issue here, poker is something that connects people from places all over the world.

Hope you figure this out soon because some of us have been left perplexed due to recent events here.

I understand people being sceptical about somebody joining the team from the outside, but I'm sure everybody's gonna profit from that in the long-term.

@roomik17: Sorry, misunderstood you. Yes, that is my account.

Cheers,
Alexander
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:44 AM
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Hey guys,

I've asked Alexander to join the team to increase the quality of hand evaluations. Alexander is a very experienced player (both live and online) with a huge theoretical background and with thousands of evaluated hands. He will support our own hand evaluator team with his skills and deliver extra value for you guys. I've also asked him to translate his "How to post hands for evaluation"-guidelines to increase the quality of hand evaluations furthermore. The better a hand is presented and the more specific the questions are the better the final analysis and developing discussions about a hand will be.

I would suggest you give him a chance to proof his skills in our hand analysis sections.

The "Super Moderator Title" was a small glitch, which I didn't recognize at first. It's fixed now and Alexander will exclusively take charge of our hand analysis section, he's not a moderator.

Welcome to the Team PSO!

Kind Regards,
Christopher


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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:53 AM
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Hi.

Welcome.

Happy to have you join us.

There are just about 15 of "us" left.

15 Mods, 15 members. Yep. That seems to be a good ratio.
 
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Re hello everybody! - Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:38 AM
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[QUOTE=PSOB!gSl!ck3r;330998]Hello topthecat,

thanks for the really long posting and feedback. I appreciate that.

You're welcome Alex, you have endeared yourself to me already although I am wondering if you actually read or understood any of it.


Actually I'm not sure why this is the case? I was asked to do it (it's a translation of a tutorial I wrote for the German site about two years ago) and think it should be helpful to everybody.

Do you think the reason might be that you were not formally introduced and your first post was a guide on hand posting which as well as being long was a little condescending and arrogant? Just a guess mind you!

I'm with you in saying that organic growth is important, but it always helps if there is some kind of mix between internal recruiting and fresh faces from the outside. It has been the same way in the past on the German plattform.

Well I was a member of Intellipoker prior to here and I never saw any as you say "fresh faces" in the training team. Videos from players of other nationalities translated to German certainly but foreign trainers??? Perhaps you could post a link to support this statement?

I'm not 100% sure why I was asked to join the team here, but I guess the site wanted to add another experienced hand reviewer to furher improve a team that already is really good. I don't think nationalities are an issue here, poker is something that connects people from places all over the world.

With the greatest of respect we are not talking about poker generally, we are not talking about nationalities, we are talking about things that may be culturally acceptable in one grouping but would be regarded as disrespectful and condescending in another grouping. I don't want to give a lesson in social psychology but these are things that should be considered when dealing with any grouping that is not from the same cultural background as your own.

I understand people being sceptical about somebody joining the team from the outside, but I'm sure everybody's gonna profit from that in the long-term.

I hope so Alex but that depends a lot on how sensitively it is managed. We have not got off to a good start have we?

By the way when you begin a post always start with a capital letter; it took me a long time to adapt to starting with a small letter when writing German.: Isn't it funny the small differences between us all?

Cheers,

TC
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:53 AM
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So what is Dave's position now? if Alexander is the head of this?...
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Dave is still the chief trainer, head of trainings, responsible for everything regarding trainings. Alexander has nothing to do with trainings and is simply supporting the hand analyzer team.


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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:03 AM
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Dave is still the chief trainer, head of trainings, responsible for everything. Alexander has nothing to do with trainings and is simply supporting the hand analyzer team.
Thank you
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:21 AM
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Hi.

Welcome.

Happy to have you join us.

There are just about 15 of "us" left.

15 Mods, 15 members. Yep. That seems to be a good ratio.
Some of us might need our own "Private Moderator".


 
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Welcome . - Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:51 AM
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Dear Alexande ,

Welcome to you and all the best for your poker learning at PSO .

Will be happy to share and learn with you .

Best wishes ,

Kiran .
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012, 09:34 PM
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with a huge theoretical background
That sounds interesting ...

Will Alexander be posting soon?

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