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45ppl sng aq v k2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:53 AM
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PokerStars Hand #74600081318: Tournament #507542291, $0.23+$0.02 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2012/01/28 2:54:40 UTC [2012/01/27 21:54:40 ET]Table '507542291 3' 9-max Seat
#5 is the buttonSeat 1: Big_Red19696 (1490 in chips)
Seat 2: coachbantam (1360 in chips)
Seat 3: mozila80 (2470 in chips)
Seat 4: Kiboonline (635 in chips)
Seat 5: holdemace486 (1120 in chips)
Seat 6: finester (900 in chips)
Seat 7: bigboyexpo21 (3760 in chips)
Seat 8: wolfgetier20 (2730 in chips)
Seat 9: grassmann121 (3785 in chips)
finester: posts small blind
15bigboyexpo21: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to holdemace486 [Qd Ac]
wolfgetier20: calls 30
grassmann121: folds
Big_Red19696: calls 30
coachbantam: calls 30
mozila80: calls 30
Kiboonline: folds
holdemace486: raises 450 to 480
finester: folds
bigboyexpo21: folds
wolfgetier20: folds
Big_Red19696: folds
coachbantam: calls 450
mozila80: folds
*** FLOP ***
[8d 7h Ah]
coachbantam: bets 880 and is all-in
holdemace486: calls 640 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (240) returned to coachbantam
*** TURN *** [8d 7h Ah] [9s
]*** RIVER *** [8d 7h Ah 9s] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coachbantam: shows [Kh 2h] (a flush, Ace high)
holdemace486: shows [Qd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Eights>

hi guys,i knew it was friday night and there would be lots of leisure players,playing.
my table seemed that way so preflop wanted to make a statement with my raise
some how the guy calls on k2
wow
my question is this getting donked or is there some reason for the opps play?
 
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Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:57 AM
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Ace-queen off suited is a group three hand. Worthy of pushing or calling unless you're on an aggressive table. Based on your bet, I'm thinking you wanted to either steal from the limpers or cut the clutter down to a one-on-one confrontation. You have four VPIP and the two blinds in the hand when you raised. Of the six players, one calls.

My impression is that he called since he had a king, (second high), and his hand was suited. It doesn't look to me like he played smart. The flop gives him a 4-card nut flush. It also gives you the top pair, which is the high hand at this point. He has nine out for his flush, which is a 36% probability that one of the two cards will be in his suit. His odds are one in three. You have five outs to improve the hand, roughly a 20% chance.

I'm thinking a good, though overly aggressive play by both players. He hit, which isn't a bad beat. He just hit on the odds. I will admit my luck seems to run the other way if I'm holding a 4-card flush, but this is in my view, a coin flip with you holding a slight edge due to the flop. Chalk it up as a tough break.
 
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Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
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Hi Holdemace!

Preflop: I always try to make standard raises. By doing this, it helps to conceal the cards that I'm playing. I'll make the same raise whether I have AA, 22, AQ, J10 or even 27. By making a standard raise, it helps to keep the opps guessing as to what cards I'm playing.
The standard that I use for this level is 3BB+1BB for each limper. In this hand, I would have raised to 210 (3BB+4*1BB for each limper).
A very large or very small raise compared to a standard raise is something that will make many players look twice at a bet, as it's something out of the ordinary. This very easily could be a reason that the opp called preflop, as a player could easily interpret it as a bluff.

On the flop AQ hits top pair, but there is a flush draw. When the opp shoves, they're effectively betting 640 (the amount left in your stack). If the opp is called, they're betting 640 chips into a pot that will be 2375 (26.9%). With the opp holding the nut flush draw, they have 9 outs to hit it and since it's the flop, each out has 4% equity. Therefore the opp has approximately 36% equity in their hand.
Their hand equity is higher than the equity that they have in the pot.... so it is a +EV play for the opponent to shove here.

I would call the bet with top pair here (63% favorite after the flop), but due to the unusual larger bet preflop, the opp does have odds to shove the flop.
With a standard raise, the opp would not have had the correct odds to shove the flop, as their pot equity would have been 38.3%, which is higher than the 37% equity of their hand. The opp could still make the call here, but it would be a marginal -1% EV play, instead of the way that it played out, where it was about a +10% EV play.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John


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Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:21 PM
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thankyou jw and cairn great words again,and some great thinking thankyou both appreciated
 

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