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Hmmm Too much for a hand like mine... - Sat Feb 04, 2012, 03:04 PM
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So this happened to me after I did about 2hours on this table but player always played good and normal poker. he looks solid enough 20/9.

So I flop a straight and they check..
Turn Flush possible and I have a re draw the the 2nd nuts but on the river it pairssssss and I bet and he goes all in....... would you call???



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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 03:10 PM
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hi m8t quality fold,i think the op had the ace diamonds and jack of spades maybe?
 
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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 03:11 PM
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hi m8t quality fold,i think the op had the ace diamonds and jack of spades maybe?
actually after watching this again im thinking 8 diamonds?
 
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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 06:47 PM
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Hi Etienne,

This is a very easy fold tbh. He's shoving for $5+ into a pot of .45c. Our hand may look strong on the surface but it's really not, we've got something like the 40th nuts (ok I didn't count exactly, but we can not beat the 8d, Ad, or any full house). Our hand really amounts to nothing more than a bluff catcher, since we can only beat bluffs on this board (i.e. any hand shoving for value on this board is beating us). Is the villain bluffing half the time? No, he's never bluffing nearly this often, not a guy who plays 20/9. This is almost always a value shove.

I would have bet again on the turn tbh, as I think we can get value from lower straights, 2 pair, sets, the single Ad, and maybe even top pair vs. a weak player. As played, no hesitation folding to the shove.

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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 07:16 PM
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hehehehe dave the 40th nuts m8t found that funny lol
 
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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 10:17 PM
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The funny thing is someone in here who will read this post will actually try to count it!!! Thanks guy!!
 
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Sat Feb 04, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Nut: Qd8d
2nd Nut to 44th Nut: 8dx (43 possible combo's that are not Qd8d, nor one of your cards/board cards)
45th Nut: JJ
46th Nut: JT
47th Nut: J9
48th Nut: J7
49th Nut: TT
50th Nut: 99
51st Nut: 77
52nd to 95th Nut: Adx (43 combo's that do not contain an 8d, nor one of your cards/board cards)
96th Nut: Kdx

Saying 40th Nut was a bit of an understatement...



(Please note, the single card hands that make up most of what beats you, are counted as individual combo's, simply because they can be made multiple ways. An arguement can be made that with only a single card making the Ad or 8d hands, each of those should be counted just once; afterall, you cannot have Ad3s AND Ad7c. But even so, we are looking at best having the 11th nut hand.)


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Sun Feb 05, 2012, 03:09 AM
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we are looking at best having the 11th nut hand.)
^^This. 40th nuts sounded funnier though.


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Sun Feb 05, 2012, 12:14 PM
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heheh dave and i envy your mind jd.
 

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