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Is this a good value line? - Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:17 AM
rule110's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 147
Opponent is loose aggressive over roughly 36hands. He had been raising me off my bttn and blinds. I had played about 7 or 8 pots, but none that were too big, and once I showed down some junk I had been betting at(48bb pot or so).

I flop well in this hand and I decided to go for three streets of value. would you have proceeded like this?

sorry, this hand is replaying properly in my replayer, but when I build a link for here, I get an exception error message and the hand doesn't load.

Transcript for hand #75668620184 requested by rule110

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Hand #75668620184: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/02/15 17:43:27 PT [2012/02/15 20:43:27 ET]
Table 'Genevieve IX' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: PatricCJ ($5.31 in chips)
Seat 3: d10seib ($10.28 in chips)
Seat 4: inasska ($23.39 in chips)
Seat 5: rule110 ($12.22 in chips)
Seat 6: hmof14 ($4.77 in chips)
inasska: posts small blind $0.05
rule110: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rule110 [As Kc]
hmof14: folds
PatricCJ: folds
d10seib: folds
inasska: raises $0.20 to $0.30
rule110: raises $0.60 to $0.90
inasska: calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [4h Ah Ks]
inasska: checks
rule110: bets $0.45
inasska: calls $0.45
*** TURN *** [4h Ah Ks] [Js]
inasska: checks
rule110: bets $1.50
inasska: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [4h Ah Ks Js] [4d]
inasska: checks
rule110: bets $4
inasska: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rule110: shows [As Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
inasska: mucks hand
rule110 collected $13.08 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.70 | Rake $0.62
Board [4h Ah Ks Js 4d]
Seat 1: PatricCJ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: d10seib (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: inasska (small blind) mucked [Kh Th]
Seat 5: rule110 (big blind) showed [As Kc] and won ($13.08) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 6: hmof14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Last edited by rule110; Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 05:33 AM..
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,517
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Hi rule,

I definitely like going for 3 streets of value here, and am willing to commit and play for stacks if he desires.

My preference would be to go for a bit larger bet sizing however. The flop bet is really small, .45c into $1.80. Turn and river bet sizings are better imo, but if we make the flop $1.25, instead of 2.70 in the pot heading to the turn we'd have 4.30. On the turn you bet 56% of the pot, so this new pot would have made our turn bet roughly 2.40 instead of 1.50. That puts 9.10 in the pot and we only have 7.67 left to bet, so we can get stacks in this way. Given your history and dynamic going on with this guy there's no reason not to think he won't give us this extra action with Ax or maybe even Kx.

Bigger bets (relative to the pot size) are easiest to call on the flop when the pot is still relatively small, so when we want to build a big pot it's preferable to make the larger bet size early. 1.25 works much better in this regard.


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Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:45 PM
rule110's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 147
Hi Dave,

ty for the analysis. I think vs this opp you are right in that I should have bet big from the start, to protect against his likely drawing hands, and to get value from his also likely worse Ax and Kx hands.

I'll often lead for 1/4 pot on flushing flops w/ my entire range. By the rvr I felt I had the best hand most of the time, and if I were to get rsed when the brd pairs fours I wouldn't be especially happy but I guess I'd have to call given my line and that line's range, which should include, from his perspective, worse flush draws than he held with his KThh.

After this hand I felt I got good value, but given the way he had been playing I felt I could have doubled through him with a bigger bet sizing on the flop.

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