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Ok, I'm officially confused..... - Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:19 AM
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I bought PokerTracker3 in January and within a week or so found access to the PT4 Beta. I've mostly just been using the HUD, but decided today to really start looking into analysing my play, because quite frankly I feel like I've been playing pretty well, but I have some MAJOR leaks that need to be fixed.

Anyway, so, because I'm pretty unfamiliar with the analysis part of the software to begin with I started looking around at the basics, and I've found something that it's saying about my play that is confusing me (This is not software depended BTW: but maybe I'm doing something wrong?!?!)

So I wanted to take a look at my 5NL cash play, which I've been concentraiting on. So far this year I've played just over 23,000 hands, and I'm DOWN $38.87, and I've attributed just shy of $70 in rake (This becomes important later.)

When I filter down my stats by position I find that I'm UP in every spot EXCEPT the blinds. In the SB I'm down almost $42 and from the BB I'm down just over $78.

Now, there's an option under Actions and Opportunities - PREFLOP called "Voluntarily Put Money int Pot" When I turn that stat to ON, I'm assuming I'm filtering out all the times I put in a blind but folded (which I tend to do a lot, because I've always been under the impression that you should only defend your blinds with Stong hands.)

Well, when I turn this option on, something very confusing happens. I'm actually UP in EVERY position, and my win total goes from -$38 to POSITIVE $104!!!!!!

Can this be right? And what does it mean???? Is the rake eating me alive??? Did I just find a major leak? Am I not defending my blinds light enough??? What? And where do I go from here to get more specific?!?!? HELP!!!!!!

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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Actually my position stats look the same for me. Up in the every position and Avg loss of -59.17 BBs/100 Hands in the small blind and -21.17 BBs/100 Hands in the big blind. My Stat software's leak finder also says I'm not aggressive enough in the big blind saying "Too passive. Raise more. Call less." I'm guessing these losses on the graph simply just add up from giving up the blinds and really will always be in the red. JDean helped me a ton with some questions I had about a tracking software, I'm sure he'd have some excellent input on this.

Also,I don't really defend my blinds much. After reading what my tracker had to say I did start in the past 3 days or so to sometimes 3-bet button and cut-off raisers with hands that well might actually get me scolded by one of our trainers, lol (94 off suit?) Mostly i like to do this with speculative hands in which case if I get called I have the chance to flop something interesting and if I don't it's easy to get away from if I get called on my c-bet. In fact you'll see me 3-betting 9s7s way more often than AK off-suit (I'm not sure if this is right, but I just can't stand being out of position with hands that usually flop top pair top kicker. It seems with my tightish play I'm a great candidate to be taken off my hand with some aggressive play from the opponent.)

Also, blind stealing I think is a great way to make up for your lost blinds. In fact, I am winning 83.28 BBs/100 Hands just from blind steals. I don't if any of this information helps or makes even a slight difference, but I am very interested in blind play because I feel as it is one of the worse aspect of my game.

Disclaimer - Everything said in this post was made by an amateur player at best and should not be taken as any advice until and if it's approved by one of the moderators themselves.

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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 01:22 PM
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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Why was this moved??? The question is a reference more for the Cash game play in the blinds than it is about the software. The software is only referenced because A) It's what I was using for analisis and B)In the off chance that I'm doing something COMPLETELY wrong with hand analysis.
 
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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 03:14 PM
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Why was this moved??? The question is a reference more for the Cash game play in the blinds than it is about the software. The software is only referenced because A) It's what I was using for analisis and B)In the off chance that I'm doing something COMPLETELY wrong with hand analysis.
Hi BandShooter!

Posts can fit into multiple forums most of the time. I moved it here because the majority of the questions were based on how to interpret the PT numbers. I'll make sure that you get a reply on how to interpret them and what they mean.

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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 03:48 PM
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Hi BandShooter!

I've talked to a few of the team members and they're not running PT, they're using HEM instead, and therefore can't really respond to this.

I think the best way for you to get an answer on this is going to be to post this on PT3's website, as you'll hopefully be able to get many replies to it, with better answers from players using this tracker. I wish I had a better answer for you, but it's the best option that we can think of.

Good luck at the tables.

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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 03:54 PM
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Chances are you're a breakeven player. When you filter for VPIP=True and your results come up positive, that generally means that you win money when you actually play. So yes, it seems that you're a losing player at the moment, solely because of the blinds. Once you get a bit better, your winnings when VPIP=True should get big enough to overcome the negative winnings you have when VPIP=False.
 

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