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did i play this wrong - Mon Mar 05, 2012, 02:21 AM
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ok i was short stacked, had stats on punga he was limping alot, had a pretty good tight read on the table, so thats why the raise to 800. did i play it wrong, i know i probable just shove, but was trying to survive to the bubble
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 01:32 PM
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Is it ever viable to go all-in preflop?
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 01:59 PM
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Absolutely a shove.
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 02:36 PM
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 02:52 PM
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Hi AmaturePlayr!

The question that I would have for you is, what is your standard raise for this blind level? Is it to 2.5BB, 3BB or what amount?
Making a larger raise than a standard raise is one of the largest online tells that a player can make, so I try to avoid doing this as much as possible.

In determining what I would open for here, there are two things that I consider. The first is my standard raise value (which for me is to 2.5BB at this level, or 500) and the second is my stack size. In this instance, 500 is over 1/3 of my stack, so I am past the committment point (here's a link to the video on Committment Decisions).

Since I'm past the committment point, instead of my normal opening raise to 500, I'm going to open-shove with AA here (and the same will be true with any hand that I would play in this situaiton).

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 03:14 PM
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Hi AmaturePlayr!

The question that I would have for you is, what is your standard raise for this blind level? Is it to 2.5BB, 3BB or what amount?
Making a larger raise than a standard raise is one of the largest online tells that a player can make, so I try to avoid doing this as much as possible.

In determining what I would open for here, there are two things that I consider. The first is my standard raise value (which for me is to 2.5BB at this level, or 500) and the second is my stack size. In this instance, 500 is over 1/3 of my stack, so I am past the committment point (here's a link to the video on Committment Decisions).

Since I'm past the committment point, instead of my normal opening raise to 500, I'm going to open-shove with AA here (and the same will be true with any hand that I would play in this situaiton).

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)
ok, but u quoted online tell for my raise there, can u explain that please, as u saw, i knew i would be commited, no matter what, but if u had Q-Q, im sure would of called also, like i said table was pretty tight, so i knew a good hand was also a factor if i let the flop play for not raising, just got unlucy with 2 qs in hole cards a the 1 outer
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 04:13 PM
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Hi AmaturePlayr!

Since when playing online players can't pick up tells from a players reactions, like a player can live, while playing online, one thing that I always try to watch is a player's bet sizes. A habit that many players fall into (and I did my first year or 2 playing online too) is that they bet smaller when they have a marginal hand and larger when they have a premium hand. This can be an easy way for an observant player to narrow the range of cards that the opp is playing.
For example, if a player makes a larger bet than normal, they probably have a high pair or AK. If they make a smaller bet than normal, they probably have a suited connector or small/mid pair.

To counteract this, the easiest way is to always make a standard bet size for each blind level and make the same raise regardless of what hand I have. I'll make the same raise with AA, 88, 22, AK, QJs or even with a total bluff hand, say 27 off. The std bet sizes that I try to use are based on the blind level. If the blinds are below 100/200, then I'll make my std raise 3BB + 1BB for each limper before me. Once the blinds hit 100/200, then I'll drop my raise to 2.5BB +1BB for each limper. Then when the blinds hit 1k/2k, I'll lower it yet again, to 2.2BB +1BB for each limper.

By making the raises consistant, the opp cannot range my hand and has no idea what two cards I'm playing preflop.

Yes, in this hand, I'm going to call if I had the QQ hand, but one goal for poker players is to NOT be reuslts oriented. The key is to be making the best decisions possible at any given time, based on the information that we already know. The results will then follow accordingly. Just because I win or lose a hand doesn't always mean that I made the correct decision on the hands that I win.. and doesn't mean that I made the wrong decsions in the hands that I lose.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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