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Urk - Ranked 193 in PSLQ - What to do? - Thu Mar 29, 2012, 01:21 AM
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The problem is of course that 2 days remain until the change of month.

My thinking is to take a wait and see approach. 10 players above me do not have the qualifying 20 Vpps.

So do nothing, then spring into a flurry of activity if I fall below 205th place or so?

Its mostly an epeen thing (One of my preliminary goals for poker was to make Premier) Though am sort of breaking even in ROI for the 1,1 buy-in (If we weight more recent games a bit heavier than the know nothing novice plays I started month with).

(ranked 4568th in open - so would need to grind a bit to make premier that way)

Cheers with a pre-emptive thanks. Jergul
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:23 PM
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HI Jergul,

My advice is simple, don't try to qualify for the Premier League with less than 150VPPs! The prize money is so low with 20VPPs that it is not a +EV move to be playing in the Premier.

There is an argument that playing there may help to improve your game, which is off course +EV, on the other hand though there are many winning players who will only play the Open and even though they qualify for the Premier, they will not play it.

Off course if one of your poker goals is to qualify for the Premier, you may wish to go for it anyway, 150VPPS or not

I have not played the Leagues in quite a while but I would like to play the Open in April if other commitments allow. If I qualify for the Premier in May I will certainly not play unless I have made 150VPPs.

Cheers,

TC
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:59 PM
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nice to see you back tc open is hell and nothing like poker more of wich hand should i shove as there is only one way to beat open run clock run clock and run clock,Prem league well last month i did not reload and so less than 20 vpps meant i was down and i still dont think its worth spending 25 dollars to get over 20 vpps to stay up in a league i get a chance to win a whole two dollars pso has not listened that one game a day is not enough to be competetive so i do the only thing i can do and dont reload
 
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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:42 AM
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Thanks Top!

I had not really considered what to do if I did make the Premier League. My game plan for now is to buy time basically so my play can improve without losing too much money in the process.

Qualifying for the Premier is just a goal I set for myself to keep things interesting and the 1,1 buy-in is just a regular 1,1 beyond that..

The 150 VPP is a June goal I just decided. Did it in Febuary. Cost me way to much money. So modified what I do to keep loss potential deeply within my comfort range.
 
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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:17 AM
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Thanks Top!

I had not really considered what to do if I did make the Premier League. My game plan for now is to buy time basically so my play can improve without losing too much money in the process.

Qualifying for the Premier is just a goal I set for myself to keep things interesting and the 1,1 buy-in is just a regular 1,1 beyond that..

The 150 VPP is a June goal I just decided. Did it in Febuary. Cost me way to much money. So modified what I do to keep loss potential deeply within my comfort range.
Make the Premier League and THEN worry about staying there.

You have 10,000 players to beat in each open league tournie but only on average 500 players in the Premier League. Get up and stay up, just concentrate on getting yourself 20VPP's to stay there and work on your game where you might some day reach the 150VPP's to make the real money.
 
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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:11 AM
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Make the Premier League and THEN worry about staying there.

You have 10,000 players to beat in each open league tournie but only on average 500 players in the Premier League. Get up and stay up, just concentrate on getting yourself 20VPP's to stay there and work on your game where you might some day reach the 150VPP's to make the real money.
hehe, ovalman. I had no problem at all reaching 150VPPs. All that took was a couple evenings with some beer the first weeks I played. A lot of fun. Cash games in particular. Only downside was wife loudly and repeatedly wondering why I was transferring money [again] to my PS account . The 20 VPP is fine (my current comfort level is around 60 VPPs/month after revising playing style after uhm encouragement from spouse - I win/lose pennies an hour with my current buy-in strategy).

Fallen to 225 now. So will have to play. Will probably play both game types. Just for fun.
 
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Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:00 PM
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Win a tourney . Then your guaranteed with your current ranking!
 
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Standard Deviation Calculator - Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:47 PM
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Since: Jul 2011
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Originally Posted by jergul View Post
The problem is of course that 2 days remain until the change of month.

My thinking is to take a wait and see approach. 10 players above me do not have the qualifying 20 Vpps.

So do nothing, then spring into a flurry of activity if I fall below 205th place or so?

Its mostly an epeen thing (One of my preliminary goals for poker was to make Premier) Though am sort of breaking even in ROI for the 1,1 buy-in (If we weight more recent games a bit heavier than the know nothing novice plays I started month with).

(ranked 4568th in open - so would need to grind a bit to make premier that way)

Cheers with a pre-emptive thanks. Jergul
Hi Jergul,
A month late, but I think this might have helped:

1) Google 'standard deviation calculator'
2) Input the points of the 200th place finishers since the league's inception.
3) Add the standard deviation to average (mean) score.
4) Make sure you feel comfortably above the sum of step 3. Compare this number to who is in 200th place at this moment.

Disclaimer!Results not guaranteed.

I hopes this gives perspective to anyone making a similar decision.
 

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