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Pocket Kings would you fold ?

View Poll Results: what would you do??
Fold to his 5 bet? 0 0%
Fold on the flop? 0 0%
Shove pre flop? 3 75.00%
other 1 25.00%
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Pocket Kings would you fold ? - Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:13 AM
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chuckkky's Avatar
Since: Dec 2010
Posts: 913
Hi All,
I dont really need a in depth Analysis,
But I am curios how many would fold this hand pre or post flop.
All signs say he has pocket Aces, I even asked him but he wouldnt tell.
I really did think about folding pre flop, but I just wanted to see them.

PokerStars Hand #78627793470: Tournament #544878291, $3.16+$0.34 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/04/10 19:55:40 AEST [2012/04/10 5:55:40 ET]
Table '544878291 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sENSifiend (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: butcher2501 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Kilo55555 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: freecat2012 (1345 in chips)
Seat 5: Doyte_D1 (1430 in chips)
Seat 6: flyjack41 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: vikingblood7 (1735 in chips)
Seat 8: CALCETINES20 (1400 in chips)
Seat 9: chuckkky (1630 in chips)
vikingblood7: posts small blind 10
CALCETINES20: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chuckkky [Kh Kc]
chuckkky: raises 40 to 60
sENSifiend: folds
butcher2501: folds
Kilo55555: folds
freecat2012: folds
Doyte_D1: raises 100 to 160
flyjack41: folds
vikingblood7: folds
CALCETINES20: folds
chuckkky: raises 240 to 400
Doyte_D1: raises 310 to 710
chuckkky said, "you got Aces"
chuckkky: calls 310
*** FLOP *** [4d 5h 9d]
chuckkky: checks
Doyte_D1: bets 720 and is all-in
chuckkky: calls 720
*** TURN *** [4d 5h 9d] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [4d 5h 9d 2s] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chuckkky: shows [Kh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Doyte_D1: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Doyte_D1 collected 2890 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2890 | Rake 0
Board [4d 5h 9d 2s 9h]
Seat 1: sENSifiend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: butcher2501 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kilo55555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: freecat2012 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Doyte_D1 showed [Ad Ac] and won (2890) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 6: flyjack41 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: vikingblood7 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: CALCETINES20 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: chuckkky showed [Kh Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines

Last edited by chuckkky; Tue Apr 10, 2012 at 06:18 AM..
 
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Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:47 AM
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jysteruk's Avatar
Since: Apr 2010
Posts: 83
Not much of an anaylsis I know...

I play a lot of STTs and am never folding KK here.
If he has AA then its just unlucky.
I find a lot of people betting the same with AK, AQ and QQ sometimes even JJ at the lower level STTs.
You even get maniacs trying to rep AA with total junk and keep raising as they don't know when to stop.

Money is always going in preflop for me here.
If the flop is all low as it is its all going in anyway with half my stack already in the pot unless there is an ace on the flop. But then I'd rather it all in preflop anyway.

Last edited by jysteruk; Tue Apr 10, 2012 at 06:51 AM..
 
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Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:32 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,809
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Hi Chuckkky!

I want it all in preflop with this hand, as I don't want an opp with Ax to possibly see a flop and know that they've outdrawn me. I would however size my bets differently. Here's the way that I'd do it.

I would make a std open from UTG by raising to 60. When the opp makes a smaller 3-bet to 160, I'm going to 4-bet to 550. If the opp 5-bets, then it's an easy shove over them for me.

I want to be playing KK early like this in a cash tourney, as there is only 1 hand ahead of me and if I win the hand, I'm set up for a deep run in the tourney. This is also a good example as to why bankroll management is important, as I want to be in a pot where against say even a top 5% hand, I have better than 2-1 chance to double up.... a big +EV play.

One thing that sticks out to me that I would NOT do is to make the comment about aces. If I were the opp here, holding AA, I know that I've got you absolutely crushed the moment that you put that into the chat.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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