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2NL fullring donk bet from a passive shorty

2NL fullring donk bet from a passive shorty - Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:05 PM
nee0903's Avatar
Since: Jan 2011
Posts: 61

53/0 over 17 hands..what is the best way to deal with such donk bets from passive shortstacks..Do we let them see more cards or get it in? Is this villain more likely to be passive only preflop and aggressive postflop?

Last edited by nee0903; Wed Apr 11, 2012 at 02:12 PM..
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:05 PM
JDean's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,145
Hi nee.

WEAK donk leads in general are not great strength. Much more often they tend to be "blocking" type bets made by draws or 2nd pair type hands. in this spot though, he made a pretty strong donk lead...

Versus a player who is showing stats this wide and passive pre flop, his near pot size donk lead could be a flopped flush given just the info you supply (you only give us his VPiP and PFR). To really assess this, you should be including other info from your HUD, geared toward looking at his post flop play tendencies.

After viewing the results, I'd have to think having HUD data on his post flop paly would tend to indicate that he probably is pretty passive pre flop, but a lot more aggro on flops, but it would be pretty improtant for you to have that BEFORE you have to make a decision to play for his stack with top pair and a draw to the 3rd nut flush.

Without that info, I think your play for his stack is a pretty decent one, only because he is short, and if he has flopped something like a 2 pair or set hand you have draw outs to win. Personally, lacking info on his post flop play I think I'd have preferred to flat his large donk lead, and re-assess on the turn...

...I do not LIKE that passive line particularly, but without inclusion of other info I think I'd have to force myself to be card dependant in this spot with a top pair/3rd nut flush draw versus an opponent who showed himself to be this loose and passive pre. Better still, I'd prefer to HAVE more info on his post flop paly, so I do not HAVE to play passively.

Hope it helps.


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