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HU SNG at micro levels - Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:38 PM
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Hi peeps I have recently discovered head-up sit & go poker and I love the fast paced full of action game. Can get a bit bored when I play 9-man sng and play really tight the first few levels.
there is a lot of talk about the micro level rake, how hard it is to beat the rake etc. (maybe this is more of a cash game problem). My thought about all this made me think about how hard it is to beat the rake at the $1.50 and $3.50 HU SNG games? are the rake like no problem as long as you ofcourse win more than you loose?
I can't play HU cash game because there just aren't any games avaible for my roll.

I have also heard about the 4-man HU SNG which only pays 1st place. would this be a good game to play or will it be the same (with rake in mind) as if you play the normal 2 on 2 sng?

What do you guys think about the hyper-speed ones? never played them. you start with a really low stack with very fast blinds. how does this affect the game play? I guess you get more variance and have to be aggressive with all-in bets quite early in the game with this type of setup

I never play the normal speed ones. always turbo due to less rake and I don't feel the blinds getting high too often.

Thanks for your time and have a great evening

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Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:39 PM
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hey mr_fruitman
as u might know, i do the hu sng coachings here at pokerschool online and i do 2 beginners coachings monthly, so you might give it a try and ask everything you like

just briefly, the rake is beatable and should be possible to beat

the 4mans are just much more variance, i wouldnt play them to be honest, since you need a much bigger roll for them

which speed is just what u prefer, i dont like hyper turbos, but thats up to you, a slightly bigger roll needed here aswell, think the edge isnt that big
 
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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
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thanks for the response. Have watched a few of your videos and will absolutly try to catch your next session in HU poker
 
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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
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Can I add, even at the lowest stakes there will be multi tablers that grind these at a very low ROI or break even. I would table select before I joined any games so as to build up a notes database. I wouldn't be scared of playing anyone that is 10+ tabling these as they will be on auto-cue but I would be more wary of someone that is only playing 2-4 tables where they can multi table with their A game and are probably (but not always) decent.

I enjoyed a brief spell at Hyper Turbo heads up, the blind structure means you have to be aggressive but it's not all necessarily push/ fold every hand.

Rake is higher at low stakes and gets lower the further you move up but Pokerstars is one of the best if not the best value sites for rake. Just worry about beating your opponent imo.
 
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Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:51 AM
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I am building up my notes on the players but there are just too many players on these stakes so I rarley ever see them again. but I guess after a whole lot of note taking I will get to that point where I will meet those I already have some reads on. how would I be able to table select when the tables show for 5 sec and then 2 people have joined in?
 
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Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:03 AM
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I am building up my notes on the players but there are just too many players on these stakes so I rarley ever see them again. but I guess after a whole lot of note taking I will get to that point where I will meet those I already have some reads on. how would I be able to table select when the tables show for 5 sec and then 2 people have joined in?
You can't really table select easily at HU sitngo - you are either first on and it starts when the second player arrives or you only have a few seconds when a player sits down to decide if you want to join them.

What you CAN do is make a decision on whether to accept/decline any opponents who have themselves already accepted a rematch. My best runs are often when I find an opponent willing to keep playing who I believe I have an edge over. Usually they will only play for two or three losses in a row but sometimes they just keep coming back.

Conversely be careful if your opponent is immediately clicking the accept rematch button, as this may indicate they believe they have your measure, even if you have beaten them a couple of times.

I really enjoy HU sitngos at the basic $1.50 level - Andre's training has been a real help. I don't make a big profit but they help collect the 150VPPs I aim for each month in a very time efficient way.

Good luck

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:06 PM
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Just sit and watch the lobby for a few minutes and you'll see who the multi tablers are. If you end up playing one, take a note that he multi tables, you can gauge by the lobby how many games he's playing. Play enough poker, you will come across the same players time and time again. I use Holdem Manager 2 that records any players I play but I still take notes on specifics like raises every pocket pair but not an Ace, chases draws etc.
 

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