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NL10 KQo river value shove?

NL10 KQo river value shove? - Sun May 20, 2012, 04:00 PM
Nocco88's Avatar
Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
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BTN: $27.50 (275 bb)
SB: $28.29 (282.9 bb)
BB: $27.55 (275.5 bb)
UTG: $25.30 (253 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.73 (107.3 bb)
CO: $17.86 (178.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q:club: K:heart:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1.12) 4:heart: 8:spade: Q:heart: (3 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.30, CO folds, SB calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.72) 2:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

River: ($7.72) Q:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.11 and is all-in, SB calls $7.11

Villain's stats: VPIP:58 PFR:6 Agg freq: 25% H:33

He seems to be a loose-passive guy. Against him I think the flop and the turn is pretty standard, but what about the river? The shove is good here? I thinked that when I'm on the river, if he has a flush he would raise me on the turn, but he didn't, so I thinked that he has a weaker Qx or maybe sometimes an 8x or a 4x here.
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:39 PM
JDean's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,145
Hi Nocco.

I think your river shove is fine in light of what you put up.

The opp here is pretty passive though, so it is not necessarily a given he would raise a flush on the turn (especially if you have been reasonably aggro, and he thinks you might keep betting), but he is not SO passive post flop (25% agg factor) that I can really fault you assuming he would. In large part it is your turn decision which dictates your river action when the 3rd Q falls, so if there is reason to bet top pair/2nd Kicker on the turn, then betting trips with a K kicker is probably a good idea on the river as well.

Your turn bet left you with just under a full pot bet, so if you are going to bet the river for value, the only bet that makes sense is a move all in. Versus an pretty passive opp, I do not think there is much sense in trying to get "tricky" by betting to hopefully induce a shove; this guy is too likely to just flat call that sort of bet.

So as I said, your line looks fine to me, given the info you provide!

hope it helps!


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