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Correct shove? - Sat Jun 02, 2012, 04:17 PM
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pazuzu was around 10BB's in chips, i had around 25, is shoving 33 correct here? i thought he would be folding most of the time.



I'm also including this hand in this post becuase it happened a few hands after the first one:
I have about 13BB's Vanos has me covered, his raise to 458 is standard when it is folded to him on BT or SB so i tohught my 33's are likely to be good and i also thought a lot of the time he would be folding. Correct shove?



Thanks Guys
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2012, 04:35 PM
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Hi cattons3

In both of these spots you were correct to go all in.

Hand 1 - Pocket 3's blind on blind with our opponent having only 9 big blinds is a correct shove. I am shoving a very wide range of cards here, if their were ante's I will shove any 2 cards except for the 82o type of hands and turn a profit.

Hand 2 - With around 13 bb's we have a legit amount of fold equity, and it's likely a random opponent will fold to our shove a decent amount of the time, because of this and the fact that our pocket 3's do ok when we do get called, this is a very good spot to reshove all in.

Good work, keep it up!
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2012, 04:39 PM
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Hi cattons3!

For a cash tourney, I agree with Chris 100%.

If these were league games, where the only goal is to last as long as possible, if the opp in the first hand was folding, I'd shove. In the 2nd hand, after a raise and having a decent chip stack, I'm mucking.

There is a huge difference in the way that a cash tourney and a league tourney should be played and that's the reason for it.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sat Jun 02, 2012, 05:01 PM
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Thanks a lot

One thing im not too sure on though is how it can still be profitable to go all in if for example with pocket 3's and if you knew your opponent had to overcards and was definitley going to call, and say i had 20BB's and he had me covered, is it worth the risk when pokerstove says you're only slightly better than 50% to win the hand... basically what im trying to say is; is it always right to go all-in with only a slightly better than 50% chance of winning the hand even though you're not in the money yet but with your chip stack you easily could? hope that makes sense... maybe i should ask this elsewhere?

Thanks a lot
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2012, 05:16 PM
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In a tourney, the point where I want to start taking coin flips is when I get down to 10-15BB. Doing it too early in a tourney will get a player KO'd more often and earlier than they really should.

If I'm ITM, then I'll be more likely to take a flip, especially one that I'm ahead in.... as once a player gets ITM, the next big pay jumps are at the final table and top 3..... so then I'll do whatever I can to try to get chips to get to the FT and top 3.

It will also be dependant on the others at the table and how they're playing. If I think I have an advantage over them, then I'll be less likely to take a flip earlier and will wait until I'm down to 10BB or under.

Hope this helps.

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Sat Jun 02, 2012, 05:32 PM
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Yes it does

Thanks again.
 

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