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Play at a new table - Tue Jun 05, 2012, 07:10 AM
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Hi guys,

Here I am again :P
Im playing at the 0,55 mtt atm and I moved to a new table.I have AA in the sb ,player in mp raised and i 3bet to 1500 (blinds 200/400/50),he calls (both of us has a stack under avg like 25-28 BB),flop was very very wet w/ flushdraws and 3 cards were connected.I was the one who have to act first.So i thought,if he's a loose ,he probably will call and raise me on the next street,if he's agg ,he wont bet,maybe he missed his cards w/ AQ,QJ etc .So i decided to shove.
How do you guys play if you're in that situation? without information ?

Thanks guys
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 09:57 AM
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I think the shove is ok here, I think he would not expect you having AA SB as SB has rubbish cards lol. so yes Shove ok here I think.
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Hi hbhuang341!

Do you have the hand history? It can be requested from the client from the requests tab, then hand history.

Stack sizes for the table and where I'm at in the tourney would be mandatory infomation for me here. How close was I to getting ITM? How many players had lower stacks than me? This information is something that I look at regardless of cards, etc.

With a player in earlier position min raising to 800, my 3-bet in this situation with AA will be to 3X their bet or 2400.
With a wet board, the thing that I have to look at is that I need to price out any draws that the opp has. Was there a combo draw out there that was in their range? To determine this, I need to know the cards that were on the flop. This will be the determining factor as to how much I need to bet. It could be as little as 1/2 pot, it could be as much as a full pot bet.

The one thing that I would not want to do is to shove, unless the necessary bet would be over 1/3 of my remaining stack. While yes, I do have a premium preflop hand, I may not even be the favorite after the flop.... can't tell since I don't know the cards on the flop. Without being the favorite, I do not want to put my tourney life on the line.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Well ,this is the history of the hand i've played

PokerStarshand #81515512639: Toernooi #569320526, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 05/06/2012 6:49:13 ET
Tafel '569320526 177' 9-max Plaats #3 is de button
Plaats 1: TheBeerman82 (13810 in chips)
Plaats 2: Aix66 (12085 in chips)
Plaats 3: TsanTsar (23005 in chips)
Plaats 4: CalvinH22(10475 in chips)
Plaats 5: taris247 (30276 in chips)
Plaats 6: Daur3107 (12685 in chips)
Plaats 7: Koshikimi (12097 in chips)
Plaats 8: Kola Bratis (15598 in chips)
Plaats 9: Nadina55 (10795 in chips)
TheBeerman82: zet de ante 25
Aix66: zet de ante 25
TsanTsar: zet de ante 25
CalvinH22: zet de ante 25
taris247: zet de ante 25
Daur3107: zet de ante 25
Koshikimi: zet de ante 25
Kola Bratis: zet de ante 25
Nadina55: zet de ante 25
CalvinH22: zet small blind 150
taris247: zet big blind 300
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan xXLimaPeruXx [Ac As]
Daur3107: foldt
Koshikimi: raiset 300 naar 600
Kola Bratis: foldt
Nadina55: foldt
Nadina55 zei, "zadnii xoxol"
TheBeerman82: foldt
Aix66: foldt
TsanTsar: foldt
CalvinH22: raiset 900 naar 1500
TsanTsar zei, "))))"
taris247: foldt
Koshikimi: callt 900
*** FLOP *** [7s 8h 9s]
CalvinH22: bet 8950 en is all-in
Koshikimi: foldt
De niet-gecallde bet (8950) is geretourneerd aan CalvinH22
CalvinH22 won 3525 van pot
CalvinH22: laat hand niet zien
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 3525 | Rake 0
Board [7s 8h 9s]

Language is in Dutch,so if you dont understand someting i will translate it for you :P
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:24 AM
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We was near at the bubble,like 360 ppl get paid,i thought around the 650-700 ppl i've played that hand
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:26 AM
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Since 10x spades could be in their range, the opp could have an OESD/flush draw combo (for 15 outs). If I shove and they had the 10 of spades and another spade, I'm a 60-40 underdog in the hand.

Due to this, I'd make a bet on the flop and another on the turn that would price out the draws, but not put me all in on the flop. To do this on the flop, I'm making a pot-sized bet on the flop.

I also don't want to shove this, as JTs is well within their range too and if they already have the straight, I need runner/runner to beat them.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 12:27 PM
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So it was better to make 3 potsized bet? But what if they make a 3bet bluff ,should i then shove/fold or call ?
His outs are 14,cuz i have a spade in my hand :P
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2012, 12:50 PM
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I would make a pot-sized bet and if they shoved, I'm mucking.

14 outs would make them a 56-44% favorite.


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Last edited by JWK24; Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00 PM.. Reason: typo
 

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