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$3.50 SNG,3rd hand,would you have played this differently? - Sat Jun 09, 2012, 04:02 PM
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OK

I have only been playing online poker since the start of this year, I've had some good results overall but recently run into a spot of bad luck.

I know I have made bad calls, probably folded winning hands in some cases but I do feel like sometimes I just can't connect with the board or just loose to the coin flips too often, the below hand is a great example.

3rd hand in a 1 table, $3.50 SNG, I had no info on the villain at all but should I have folded after my re-raise was re-raised?

Would anyone else have folded my hand in the same situation (ie so early on in the game?)

any assistance would be greatly appreciated.



(if the above doesnt work can someone let me know how to do it properly
 
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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 05:12 PM
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Hi Regal_King. Welcome to the PSO forum. There is lots of information on this site and you can find an overview here.

You have done something wromg posting your hand. Here is a link to an instructional video.

Good luck
Doug


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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 05:23 PM
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hi doug

i can see the replayer on my screen??
 
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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 05:31 PM
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I get an invalid URL when I try to replay the hand.

Doug


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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 05:46 PM
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http://
 
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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 05:56 PM
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Whatever you are doing is posting the hand twice and giving an invalid URL on Opera but it works when I use firefox. I have not a clue why. I will PM you.

Doug


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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 06:04 PM
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ta doug
 
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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Hi Regal_King!

Welcome to the forum and the replayer works fine for me with your hands (although it looks like the link copied twice).

With JJ at the beginning of a tourney, I want to play the hand cautiously, as players can be playing almost anything and I don't want to get all my chips into the pot until I know I will have the best hand after all 5 cards are on the board.

The player in the hijack makes a non-std raise to 70 (would make me wonder, as it's not a std raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper). Since I'm out of position I'm going to flat their bet. If it wasn't the first level of the tourney, or I had a read on the opp that said that they were VERY loose, then I would want to 3-bet here and I would make my standard 3-bet amount (which for me is a raise to between the size of the pot and 3X the previous bet). Betting over 5X the opp's bet is a bit large and could easily be looked at as a tell for a higher pocket pair. I like to keep my bets standard, as this helps to keep the opps guessing as to what I'm playing. I'll make the same bet with AA, 33, KQ, or a total bluff. Bet sizes are the largest tell that most players have online and I would want to avoid giving my opponents any additional information.

When the opp shoves over me, since there are hands that I'm behind (QQ+) and hands that can easily outdraw me (any with an A, K or Q), I'm going to muck and look for a better spot to be in... hopefully where I'm in position and not out of position.

While I want to be accumulating chips, I want to play a bit more cautious early, until I get a read on the opps, especially out of position with a hand that can easily be beat. Patience in tourneys is absolutely necessary, especially as the number of entrants increases for larger tourneys.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sat Jun 09, 2012, 08:35 PM
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Great answer John.I definitely would have dropped it on the re-raise that early. See Above..lol...Better luck to you next time...
 
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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:40 PM
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Hi Regal,
I play a lot of $3.50 SNGs myself and, while I don't claim to be an expert, I would've folded. I think to start i'dve three Bet smaller to about 210 maybe and then it would've been easier to get away from the hand. But my main reason would’ve been that I try to avoid early flips in SNGs and here I think, unless the villain is a complete shove monkey, you’re flipping at best. A really good book I read on the subject explained it in terms of tournament equity. When you get involved in an early coin flip both you and the Villain put all (or practically all) of the equity you have invested in the tournament on the line. If you lose you lose all of your equity but if you win some of the equity from the villain doesn’t go to you but gets re distributed to the other players on the table by virtue of the fact that they have also now moved one step closer to the money. So your reward never justifies your risk. The real winners, although only in a small way are those players not in the pot who effectively can only gain from this situation.
Having said all that I did make exactly this call with pocket Jacks a couple of weeks ago while on tilt. I sucked out on the River against Aces and went on to win the game, cursing my foolishness all the way.
:-)

Last edited by RobinQQQ; Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:49 PM.. Reason: typo
 

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