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Ak all in againts 2 players - Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:55 PM
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I believe it was the right call to make, what do you guys think?



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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:01 PM
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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:41 PM
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This was in the Hubbles NL Freeroll today. It was later in the tournament maybe 800 players left, i was certain i had the guy to the left of me beat so i threw out a bet hopeing they would fold because there was a flush draw on the board but when they both raised i went all in, maybe i shoulda just called this bet insted of going all in then all in on the river?

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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:55 PM
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I like the play and think it was spot on. The only problem was you didn't have enough chips to force out the draw!
 
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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Thanks Man
Ya im wondering though if i woulda just called the bet on the flop and when the turn came i shoulda went all in there. He possibly could have folded it down knowing he had less odds of completing his flush on the river?
 
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Thu Jun 21, 2012, 05:35 AM
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You got unlucky here, and I like your play, very similar to how I would play it, but I would have made my bets slightly more. Firstly pre-flop my standard raise is 2.5-3BB + 1BB for each limper so I would raise between 1,400 - 1,600. Then on the flop I would want to price out both opponents of the flush draw if they both called, so I would need to bet more than 1/2 pot. I would do between 3/4 and a full pot bet so 3,400 - 4,600 and as this is more than 1/3 of my stack I would be looking to shove.

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Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Hi Skinner2001!

With 800 to go in a hubble, a 10k stack is not enough chips to get the ticket, so I'm looking for places where I can accumulate chips in order to make it past the bubble and get a ticket.

With AK, I'll make a std raise in this situation. For me at this blind level, it will be to 2.5BB+1BB for each limper (I try to start at 3BB, then drop to 2.5BB at 100/200, then drop to 2.2BB at 1k/2k). With 1 limper, I'll raise to 3.5BB or 1400.

The flop gives me top pair, but there is a flush, straight and even a possible combo draw out there. I want to make a bet here, but I need to size it that I can price out as many draws as possible. With two opps, I'll normally make a pot-sized bet here (then make another pot sized bet on the turn if the draws didn't hit).... however... a pot sized bet is about 1/2 my stack, so due to this, I'm shoving the flop.

By shoving here, if I can get one opp to drop, then the other will have 40% pot equity, which will price out a straight draw or a flush draw and there is nothing that I can do against a combo draw, as the combo draw is the favorite to win the hand. If both opps stay, there's no way I can price out any of the larger draws, but at least I can shove first and put the pressure to call on my opponents, instead of it being on me having to call a larger bet.

Unfortunately, the flush hits on the river, but with two opps staying in the hand, I expect one of them to have it.

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Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the help guys
 

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