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Im gonna snap soon! - Sun Jul 08, 2012, 06:12 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 35
Ok tell me if this is normal,this kind of thing happens everytime i try to play an open skill league game and quite frankly its driving me nutz! Am i overreacting!? *********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Hand #83014040289: Tournament #579771883, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (80/160) - 2012/07/08 2:46:15 PT [2012/07/08 5:46:15 ET]
Table '579771883 1003' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bruklin879 (12455 in chips)
Seat 2: Beztroski (2540 in chips)
Seat 3: rinatej (18482 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Batkowitch (11050 in chips)
Seat 5: dim940811 (4140 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: sla16wek (3870 in chips)
Seat 7: tonyn21 (6010 in chips)
Seat 8: Tassemann (6500 in chips)
Seat 9: Roman2681 (17568 in chips)
bruklin879: posts the ante 15
Beztroski: posts the ante 15
rinatej: posts the ante 15
Batkowitch: posts the ante 15
dim940811: posts the ante 15
sla16wek: posts the ante 15
tonyn21: posts the ante 15
Tassemann: posts the ante 15
Roman2681: posts the ante 15
bruklin879: posts small blind 80
Beztroski: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tonyn21 [Ad Ah]
rinatej: folds
dim940811 has returned
Batkowitch: raises 10875 to 11035 and is all-in
dim940811: folds
sla16wek: folds
tonyn21: calls 5995 and is all-in
Tassemann: folds
Roman2681: folds
bruklin879: folds
Beztroski: folds
Uncalled bet (5040) returned to Batkowitch
*** FLOP *** [6d Qd 4s]
*** TURN *** [6d Qd 4s] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [6d Qd 4s Kc] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Batkowitch: shows [Qs Kd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
tonyn21: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Batkowitch collected 12365 from pot
tonyn21 finished the tournament in 2302nd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12365 | Rake 0
Board [6d Qd 4s Kc 9d]
Seat 1: bruklin879 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Beztroski (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: rinatej folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Batkowitch showed [Qs Kd] and won (12365) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 5: dim940811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sla16wek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tonyn21 showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: Tassemann folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Roman2681 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Clarify. - Sun Jul 08, 2012, 06:20 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 35
Sorry i was so mad i wasnt clear,ok i was dealt AA near button and this donk goes all in ahead of me,now was i supposed to fold? Because everytime i start having a good game and am faced with a donk shove(someone with a bigger stack usually) if i have a monster hand i end up calling against my better judgement(better being 4-5times the BB)and.......SENT TO THE RAILS!!!
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Since: Jul 2011
Posts: 138
nice post tony i have never played in the skill league but the im sure the scoring system is the same for the open league. You are right are we meant to keep folding monsters early on to make sure we dont get sucked out on by some psychic player who pushes with air. if we all started with zero points at the start of a tourney and was rewarded with points for how long we lasted it would be a fairer playing field imo and a true test of skill. I wont be taking part in the open league this month for them reasons hopefully in time they will make some changes.


 
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Sun Jul 08, 2012, 10:43 AM
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Posts: 1,089
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I can tell you, before even reading your hand history, that it is normal. 100% normal. In poker be ready for the good, the bad, the great, and the (disturbingly, unbelievable, sky-is-falling)ugly. It is all part of the package. The goal is to make better desicions than your opponents while you all ride the variance waves.
 
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Do not snap!!! - Sun Jul 08, 2012, 11:13 AM
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I rarely play these leagues anymore but when playing with a long term goal in mind, MONTH END and POINTS you must keep that in mind as you play. The first 10 days of every month worrying about or stressing over these types of plays arent worth it. Been there done that. All in is just a horse race and after the flop your high pair leverage is toast. You hope for the best and wait , there is no control left, you just wait. The other thing I had to learn was any card that I play no matter what the BOOK SAYS or anyone else it is MY CHOICE and when I make that choice I, me ,myself must live with it.


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Mon Jul 09, 2012, 03:20 AM
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Tony, AA losing to KQ is rare in the Open, It normally loses to 3-8,4-9 off and i am not kidding. You HAVE to fold monsters at times in he open, your position is your guide and the CLOCK is your friend, trust me I know how to clock, look at my results this month in the Open it's all down to Time management and endless amounts of patience. That being said I have folded really well this month with style and great gusto....Good Luck.. Gate e.
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012, 08:54 AM
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Since: Jul 2011
Posts: 138
just checked your results gate looks like you have your strategy spot on are you sitting out early or trying to chip up abit early on would be good to know. also i bet you are laying down some hands in spots u usually wouldnt. keep up the good work its made me want to play a few now and get some points on the board.


 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012, 10:01 AM
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Early Alan i have folded KK, QQ etc, Crazy I know but If you play that crazy league you hve to develop an Anti-Poker style in the first 30 mins. i have helped a new guy Ledzepp000 in his 2nd go at the Open and he is now inside the top 200. Don't get me wrong I hate this type of poker and don't enjoy it but it helps the bankroll. Good Luck Alan.. Gate
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012, 11:48 AM
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Hi Gate, you playing in the razz tonight . ? Have done my razz homework and although it'll be a bit of a guessing game i'm up for the challenge. Django now got a gap in front with 10 games left however its well possible to gain ground.. Good luck m8 .


 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012, 12:49 PM
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Posts: 138
your right its horribe early on and if your getting premium hands early on having to lay tem down. I played that strat last month and managed to cash but to many scores in the high end of 2000 meaning ther was no way i could push for a top 200 spot. Might try a few qualifiers this month instead if my br lets me


 
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Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 35
thanx and all who posted it helps to get great feedback from good players!
 
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Same - Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:07 PM
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Well, if you want some advice, never play pocket aces. out of the last 9 times i had them, I LOST THEM ALL! But talking about bad beats, i finally built myself a bit of money, so i sat at a table, flop a straight flush, and lose to a royal cause of the turn and river.
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2013, 02:24 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 35
WOW thats terrible!
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 07:26 PM
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wise words man, going to stick those up on the wall, this is a beautifull game with many thrills and spills, but since comming here my game is getting better and having too many lists and tables and charts can take your focus away from studying your opponents, ultimately its them you have to beat and when the cards come out wrong, i smile cause my turn is comming.
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 09:06 PM
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I mecha! I noticed you on my table in the Red Spade freeroll, but I guess you weren't following the chat when I said hi.
You can learn a lot from the forum and training sessions, so stick around and improve your game.


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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:58 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 35
Man tryed again the pso open this month was up to top 600 or so i think or at least 700s and then ONCE AGAIN...LIKE ALWAYS...got stuck in a non-stop series of game after game of losing with best hand to some SHOVER with there fingers crossed eyes closed and a beautiful marriage to mrs.lady luck! Time after time after time i play the start super tight fold,fold fold,kill clock then when the blinds start to outweigh my stack along comes a great hand/flop and im so happy because THIS time it will be different THIS time it will be right...flop,turn,river...andddddddd im gone! AGAIN! GL @the tables friends because skill and patience and good karma arent enough...never will be! tonyn21.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 06:10 PM
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Since: Jun 2013
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seems normal to me. Unless its 5play or less I would fold such an overt all in. I personally never think any made hand is worth your seat in the tourney so early on.

Shitty break, but I agree with gatehouse999. You are just as likely to loose this hand to a complete donkey with 2 pair under 7. Statistical probability is what youre angry at, but every combination is possible every hand and all in pre flop is (in this super novices view) never worth the risk in the early game
 

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