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$30k freeroll 200ppl away from the $ - Mon Jul 09, 2012, 05:47 PM
TheAwesomeNW's Avatar
Since: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Heys people I'm new to MTT, got a ticket to this freeroll. Starting chips was 30000, I was up, spewed a bit of chips and back to 30000. I'm at 60bb. Average stack was around 65000. I was ranked 398 while the first 211 would be ITM.

Not many reads on villain, he was 17/17 after 24 hands.

My intention was already to shove all in preflop as QQ had great equity. So question is should I have folded it preflop since I was around 200 people away from making the money and still had 60bb? Or is it standard play to shove QQ under this circumstance?
Mon Jul 09, 2012, 07:59 PM
RobinQQQ's Avatar
Since: Jul 2010
Posts: 115
I don't think you did anything wrong. I think you have to three bet and you have to call. If you'd won you would've been in decent position to make the money and think about better.
Mon Jul 09, 2012, 08:39 PM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,862
Hi TheAwesomeNW!

If I'm in that position, then I'm thinking that I need chips to get ITM. Due to this, I'm looking to play hands where I can accumulate chips. When the opp raises, I'd definitely want to 3-bet to isolate the original raiser, as QQ plays much better against only 1 opp. My normal 3-bet size would be 3X the previous bet, but, this is right at 1/3 of my current stack, which is the committment point. Due to this, I'm going to shove here.

I don't have 60BB, I've only got about 30BB (M of 11 when you add in the blinds/antes). If I had more chips than this, then I'd make a std raise to 9k, then be ready to call a shove.

The reason for shoving or calling a shove is that with one opp, I've got just under 50% equity in the pot. When I put my QQ into pokerstove against a 17% range, I have 69% equity. This makes getting my chip into the pot against this opp a large +EV play.
Even if the opp would narrow their range to a top 5% hand to call my shove, I still have 57% hand equity and less than 50% invested in the pot... a +EV play.

I'm going to 3-bet shove with QQ here to try and accumulate chips to get ITM.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 04:50 AM
TheAwesomeNW's Avatar
Since: Mar 2012
Posts: 474
Thanks a lot ppl! I was still doubting whether I should have made the 3bet and shove. I guess I wouldn't make it to the $$ even if I folded every single hand. With good equity and the need of a larger stack, it's the right move

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