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is there any point to playing micro/low stakes tourneys - Mon Jul 09, 2012, 11:01 PM
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i play alot of these , as this is what my bankroll affords me , but so many donks sucking out time after time , folk calling with 3rd or 4th button , no appreciation of pot odds , draw chasers always getting their card no matter how much they have spewed trying to hit it ; its not poker . But i wont be moving up just see what the difference is . Sunday night inadvertantly but into a $55 tourney ( should ave had specs on ) ten hands in re raise from the button to a MP open raise , with 99 , guy shoves 35 BBs i just know he has AK so call , was right he has AK , spikes a King on the river , so it seems no matter the stakes you just see bad poker online .Think I'll quit online and stick to live games .
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:09 AM
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If you think it's better playing live, then by all means you should go for it. I think you'll find that the same suck-outs happen no matter where you play, but I wish you good luck.

 
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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:11 AM
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I prefer live poker myself your gona loose flips online or live but online is a convinience i dont have to wait till the next tourney starts you can play as and when you want so it make sense to me to play both


 
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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:07 AM
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short answer = Yes

Longer answer which actually answers your question. Only if you are going to learn to accept that players at these levels are losser.

You are complaining that people have no appreciation of pot odds yet you risked your $55 tornie life on what you "knew " was a coin flip which you didn't win. If you "know' everyone is playing light then you can only value bet with the stone cold nuts.

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Its nice that you have the option to go live as well as online, I hope it goes well for you.


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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by frasierbeams View Post
i play alot of these , as this is what my bankroll affords me , but so many donks sucking out time after time , folk calling with 3rd or 4th button , no appreciation of pot odds , draw chasers always getting their card no matter how much they have spewed trying to hit it ; its not poker . But i wont be moving up just see what the difference is . Sunday night inadvertantly but into a $55 tourney ( should ave had specs on ) ten hands in re raise from the button to a MP open raise , with 99 , guy shoves 35 BBs i just know he has AK so call , was right he has AK , spikes a King on the river , so it seems no matter the stakes you just see bad poker online .Think I'll quit online and stick to live games .
Frasier,
The odds on you winning that hand were 52%, that means that 48% of the time you will end up losing it, hence the term coinflip. I think your problem is that you are not calculating your winning odds correctly and are tilting quite badly in response to a "fair" loss. 99 is not an all in hand pre flop with 35bb's unless you are in a rebuy tourney and can stand the loss. Even post flop with a low board you are facing a set or overpair more often than not. I think your whole ethos is out of kilter with the way you need to approach online play. When you are ahead pre flop with a nice hand you are not that far ahead that you should win, there is no given in poker, how many times do u need to see your hand busted to work this out, ahead is only ahead until it loses!!

Live you can read a player better and get a feel for who's easy prey, you are only playing in one game, you are physically interacting with the people around you and are way more involved. Online it's easy to feel hard done by when you lose with your aces (or 9's) because you are playing way more hands, faster and with way less information on your opponents and usually in multiple rooms making snap decisions based on this lack of info. Try folding 9's, Tens, Jacks, a t, aj, aq and any other marginal hand you are playing to a re-raise and go purely on premiums for a week or so unless you are in great position and know you are ahead. If you are playing micro buy in tournys and know your opponents are not appreciating or using pot odds, don't try to bet them off their draws, let the board play out as cheaply as possible and take it down when they don't hit (or get allin straight away).

In response to your reply on the previous topic, there are winning players, and big winners, plenty of them. I've checked players out regularly over the last few years and have played against guys and girls that are 50k down and guys and girls that are 100k up, they are out there! As for me, it's going pretty badly still and i'm waiting to turn the corner but can't afford to play the games i know will help me.... wish me luck as i do you!
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:42 PM
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If you think there are less fish and less suck outs live then you're in for a surprise.

To me that's a GOOD thing.

For you I'm not so sure. I mean be honest frasier...if you truly feel you have a skill advantage over your opps (which by your dismissive comment about the villain's call with AK you apparently do),then isn't risking your entire tournament,with a 35BB stack,a fish play?


Whenever I see posts such as this I always feel compelled to ask the same thing...

...if you can't beat players whom you deem to be much worse than you what does that say about YOUR game?
 

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