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25c 45ppl sng kk - Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:35 AM
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hi all the player involved in the pot was Tight and a bit tight on his betting, was this correctly folded and was my preflop raise wise when i put him on a ace all ready b4 the flop

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Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:43 AM
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Hi Holdemace!

Please repost the hand... it's not there.

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Tue Jul 17, 2012, 11:38 AM
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hi jw made fresh link it works now thx
 
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3-bet sizing - Tue Jul 17, 2012, 04:38 PM
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hi all the player involved in the pot was Tight and a bit tight on his betting, was this correctly folded and was my preflop raise wise when i put him on a ace all ready b4 the flop
Level 1 - 45 Man MTT - 84BB deep – Villain read = Tight

Seems to me the ‘Tight’ label given to the villain, should only be given if you have played vs. him before. As it stands, you are still in level 1; therefore not many hands have been played. It’s possible he’s been ‘card dead’, or he’s playing cautious while evaluating the table. Being two players are out during level 1, It's also possible that because of the action at the table, he didn't want to get deeply involved in a hand. The villain is down 13BB, so he has definitely been somewhat involved.

PF: You are dealt a premium hand… Although I like your 3-bet, it’s way too large. You want to get some action, and at the same time protect your chip stack early in a tourney. As played, the PFR calls you. This sets up a SPR of 2, which is ideal for your hand.

Flop: The flop has an Ace… not a card you want to see, with such a small SPR. You make a c-bet, and are check-raised! Not the scenario you wanted to see, especially with the ‘Tight’ tag you’ve given the villain. It’s still early in the tourney, and your chip stack is still workable (57BB), time to give up on this hand.

However, if played differently, by 3-betting smaller, you could have gotten away from this hand with a much more viable chip stack remaining (66BB). By raising so much PF, it cost you 9BB more to play this hand.


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Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:07 PM
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I would've folded the the flop as well, cursing all the while.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:15 PM
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Hi Holdemace!

With KK and a std raise, I'm definitely going to make a 3-bet here and size it as a standard 3X raise, so I'll raise to 180. I want to keep all of my raises standard, to help conceal the strength of my hand.

The flop brings an A, along with possible straight and flush draws. When the opp checks to me, I'm going to make my standard c-bet for this type of board of 2/3 pot (the reason I raise my bet size from 1/2 pot is that I may need to price out a possible straight/flush combo draw), so I'll bet 340. The opp now min check/raises me. If there wasn't an A on the board, I'd call it, but if the opp has an A (most likely), I now only have 2 outs to win the hand. Due to this, I'm mucking to their check/raise.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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