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Bankroll management for CAP games. - Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:03 PM
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Hey all, I've been trying out the CAP games at pokestars and couldn't really find any bankoll guidelines for these games. I've played 3110 hands and won 230$ (at the 25c/50c). My EV adjusted however is 98$ (running 13 buy-ins above EV!!!) As you can see the swings are quite huge. I find the games really soft and rarely get my money in bad. I'm winning 15BB/100 (6/100 when you go by EV adjusted) and i can easily play 16 tables at once. I'd love to play these games but don't want to lose half my roll trying out this new thing. I now have an 840$ bankroll, but am asking my self if this is enough.
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:24 PM
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When playing CAP 50NL the max you bring at the table is $25, which is the same amount as the 25NL regular table. So with a bankroll of $875, you have enough for the 50NL CAP.
Once you've reached $1,050, you'll be able to move up to the 100NL

Warning, 3,100 hands is not a lot hands played, you haven't hit a down swing yet. Like you said the swings are very huge. I've played over 26,000 hands at 50NL CAP and my BB/100 is at about 3.18

Good Luck
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:47 PM
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Thanks for the quick response, I'll get some volume in it and see how it goes
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:38 AM
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okay, so after 9k hands, my EV adjusted is 53$. This is just over 1bb/100 but with a lot of varience (no poblem in my case ). Unfotunately there aren't too many tables (max 16) availible . Fortunately i do get a lot of VPPs (700 in 9k hands) so i think most of my value will come from the rake back.
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 11:44 AM
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6,000 hands in one day.....WOW

Value from rake back takes a while to achieve unless you're grinding the way you are.

Here's my grind:
http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/for...777-2012-goals

In 200,000 hands I've made about $800 in all kinds of bonuses, but I must say, just in the last 3 months it was $500

Good Luck
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:32 PM
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@ trap just to clarify these are not quite like playin' the 25 nl game in that max u can win/lose per is only 20 bigs or $10. And yes they are very high variance type games because of the style they are played ie: most 3bets are for the cap. So when playing those spots its generaly for 20 bigs and as we know, w/o being able to play as much postflop variance is a bit more of a b**ch. I played thes a bit pre BF and was then labeled by the regs i'm sure as I didn't really know at that time the optimal way to play them. But I do look forward to being able to now that my studies have taught me alot sinse then. They are imo a great multi table venue but I think your br should be a bit more than if your playing the same limit deeper ie: 100-250 deep simply because of the all in variance aspect of them. Though to the op your roll IS def. Enough to play these more "swingy" games. I asked for some live training but as of now none have been done to my knowledge. best of luck.
MT.


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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:50 PM
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MT, what I meant by they are like 25NL, is the max amount of the buy in is $25
As for videos, there is at least one or two on CAP games

CAP games are not for the faint of hearts, variance is very high.
You need good knowledge, a good BR and good nerves as you will see lots of all in's

 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:43 PM
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Wizardofahhs has 2 vids about CAP games. On his site he recommends a 2000+ BB bankroll.
If you want to learn the game i recommend you look here
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:44 PM
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You'll find both videos here:

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...s-Wizardofahhs
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:15 PM
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After 15705 hands (yes, i played 12k hands today) my EV is 8,24$. I paid 217$ of rake and got just in time to make gold star. So after 15k hands i decided i am only gonna play these games when i need VPPs at the end of te month because i dont want to have a 200$ downswing. I Think I'm gonna start blogging aswell
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2012, 09:59 AM
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Ya i've watched thos vids of course. would be great if he made a couple more...What I meant was live training vids where spots are acutually discussed and/ or questions answered by the trainers, so a vid would be much more indepth. And/but thanks for the links.


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