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NL2FR flush draw+gutshot - Wed Aug 01, 2012, 02:28 PM
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edit, sry i dont know how to use these forums, the other hand in this 2 questions is donw below, i posted it in wrong place,in thread below, and how do i know when there answered, somone sed goto subscriptions or sumthing,
hi,
trying to get these draw hands perfected, i didnt have any HUD running so didnt know much about villain, but should i bet turn here or was check ok ?. somtimes i like check raise coz u usually get them to stop beting turn and u see free and then try hit ur draw on river, but if checked to you should u bet turn for fold equity with still chance of hitng ur draw as in this case i had lots of outs?





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this is another draw but slightly difrent coz theres an over card wich i think has hit villain, but should i still bet turn, same as above no stats, guy just joined table, usually i raise to .09 here but miscliked,.....oh yeah and was the check raise silly i was just gonna bet out ?

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Wed Aug 01, 2012, 11:27 PM
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Hi,

I copied the hand over from the other thread:


hi,
trying to get these draw hands perfected, i didnt have any HUD running so didnt know much about villain, but should i bet turn here or was check ok ?. somtimes i like check raise coz u usually get them to stop beting turn and u see free and then try hit ur draw on river, but if checked to you should u bet turn for fold equity with still chance of hitng ur draw as in this case i had lots of outs?




If I were taking a check-raise as a semi-bluff line, I would tend to follow through on the turn, especially here where A) the villain calls the check-raise (maybe an overpair) and B) the turn card is scary to his range but could have helped ours. If you had reads and knew he was not a good target to semibluff then checking is fine, but you wouldn't be check-raise semi-bluffing a player like that anyway. If he's a good semi-bluff target then check-raising 2 overs + gut shot + back door flush draw is fine, and when you catch a turn card that is both bad for the villains range and gives you additional equity with the back door flush draw, it's a great barreling spot.

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Fri Aug 03, 2012, 12:50 PM
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f I were taking a check-raise as a semi-bluff line, I would tend to follow through on the turn, especially here where A) the villain calls the check-raise (maybe an overpair) and B) the turn card is scary to his range but could have helped ours. If you had reads and knew he was not a good target to semibluff then checking is fine, but you wouldn't be check-raise semi-bluffing a player like that anyway. If he's a good semi-bluff target then check-raising 2 overs + gut shot + back door flush draw is fine, and when you catch a turn card that is both bad for the villains range and gives you additional equity with the back door flush draw, it's a great barreling spot.

yeah thanx, i do most times bet turn here, but somtimes if not as strong i check, but mostly my problem is somtimes i check somtimes i bet just by what i feal like, i have to work on it bit more i think, Can i just ask u if i have this write tho, ...a good person to semi bluff flop and turn would be a decent thinking player, and somone not to semi bluff would b a fish calling station type ?
 
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Fri Aug 03, 2012, 03:54 PM
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.a good person to semi bluff flop and turn would be a decent thinking player, and somone not to semi bluff would b a fish calling station type ?
Yes, correct, never semi-bluff a calling station because there is no "bluff" component, you'd simply be charging yourself to draw. Check out my Profiling for Exploitation Class for some more info on this.

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Fri Aug 03, 2012, 05:52 PM
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Thankyou, will check that out aslo
 

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