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Stack expressed in BB's account for Ante's ? - Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Hi all!

In the middle and final phase of a tournament some moves are according to the SnG (and MTT) course determined by the amount of BB's in your stack.

Example:
http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...-Blinds?page=2

Should I interpret this as if Ante's are already in play? Why so/not? In the Hubble's Freeroll they come in at level 3 already.

Thanx!
 
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Welcome - Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Hi GuuZ88. Welcome to the forum. You can find the answers to a lot of questions somewhere on the PSO site. To get you stated here is how the site is organized.

There are two methods of calculating stack sizes relative to the blinds. One is the simple how many BBs is there in your stack. the other is BB+ SB + total antes in an orbit. The simple way to find this is to look at the pot size after the blinds and antes are posted and before anybody bets. Some people useone, some the other, some use both. Use which ever you find most effective.

Good luck
Doug


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Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:58 AM
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Thanx!

Reason I am asking is because I'm trying to follow the strategy from the SnG course. In the examples in the course are no ante's involved. And since Ante's are involved with the big freeroll MTT's, I am not entirely sure when to shift a 'column'..
 
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Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:25 AM
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Hey Guu great question. The antes should always be calculated in and this is called ante adjusted bb's. Whether you use the bb calc or m calc, it is important that you know your opponent and how weak or tight they will call your range and whether you are -/+ EV and this will help you establish push/fold ranges.

An mtt is quite different from a sng for a couple reasons. In an mtt we need to gamble more as we have 3 stages to each game. Making the money, making the final table and making top 3 ( where all the money is ) In addition, the ante's are much greater in an mtt and rather insignificant most times in a sng relatively speaking.

Each game can be played for good results by playing strong hands in position. This is not to say we don't play speculative hands but we need to develop a good post flop game and have great reads to do this.

I would suggest watching the many vids on PSO and reading 2 books. Sng strategy by Collin Moshman and Tournament Poker by David Sklansky who will tell you about the GAP theory.

 
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SNG vs MTT - Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:26 PM
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In a SNG, at least up yo 45 man, being the short stack when the bubble bursts is not that great a disadvantage most times. The prize money increases significantly for each person you outlast. However in a big field MTT, hundreds often have to bust before there is a small increase in prize money. You are also generally much farther behind the chip leaders in a large MTT percentage wise. Both these things make the ideal strategies for MTTs considerably different from the best SNG approach. As Chris has stated above, the general rule is to accept more risk in an MTT because when you are successful you gain a much bigger advantage.

Good luck
Doug


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Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:08 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. Clear intel!
 

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