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5L Zoom got 3 bet on river holding 2nd nut hand - Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:17 PM
animosama's Avatar
Since: Jan 2011
Posts: 63

oops just realize that itsn't 2nd nut hand but in spots like these is calling the only thing i can really do, since only better would call the 4 bet or would need to have some serous reads to 4 bet in this spot, but i think most people would raise pockets pair preflop utg and 4x is a slim part of unknown's range?

Last edited by animosama; Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 04:30 PM..
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:53 PM
GarethC23's Avatar
Since: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,273

I think on the river you should never 3bet the river.

Let's clear up a few things though.

1) We don't have close to the 2nd nuts. We have the 3rd nut flush on a paired board. There are lots of different ways someone can make a better flush than ours AdX with Xd being lots of other cards, for example. So then between that and the board being paired, our hand is actually pretty marginal versus someone's river raising range.

2) We bet and he raised the river. So technically that's a 2-bet. Postflop if we bet, get raised, and re-reraised, we're the ones making the 3-bet.

So I would be worried that we are not a favourite against his calling range should we 3-bet the river. Therefore I think our decision is to take our pot odds and call the river or the bet/fold the river. I think against an unknown our pot odds are either good enough or close enough to call the raise. I am not actually too happy about it! But I think we will see 4x and worse flushes enough of the time for it to be +EV.


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