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10NL 6-max betting sets - Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:05 PM
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Hi,

Non zoom 10NL didn't get dealt into a Milestone hand but I managed to play a couple of sets.

My 77 line was to call oop to set mine. Nice flop and wow I refrained from a donk bet.

I flat called the c-bet as I didn't want to throw a rock in the water. On the turn comes the second barrel so I raise to get more money in the pot. Now checking the river and raising is this a bit risky?
Would the correct line be to bet since I raised on the turn but then I'd hate to be raised off the hand?

My 99 line c/o open raise and just calling the 3b. I think that villains think I'm on a steal maybe 3b light? I don't think I have implied odds to set mine even if the btn comes along so is this a correct call?

Now on dream flop the villain leads out so best to get the chips in on the flop.

Thanks

 
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Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Hi FF,

In the future please try to keep it to 1 hand per post, so when good discussions ensue we're all talking about the same hand.

In the 77 hand I would generally raise this flop, or check/call, then bet the turn. I don't like the check-call/check-raise line as much on a dry ace high board because it's the type of situation where he either has a big ace or he doesn't... when he doesn't he's not likely to give us more action anyway (unless he sucks out), and when he does he will call a flop raise and may even 3b with AK/AQ, so we start growing the pot immediately vs. those hands. The reason most sane opponents won't continue to give action to our check-call without a decent ace is because when we check-call this dry board our hand looks like at least an ace. Now you didn't give any reads or info at all () so I'm saying this in a vacuum. Obviously with reads you might adjust. Like if the villain were a huge spewy bluffer, then I don't mind check-calling for example.

In the 99 hand, we definitely do not have implied odds to set mine and I don't like calling preflop here tbh. However if you think he's 3-betting light a lot then you can 4b and get it in profitably vs. his half stack. Not sure why you felt like he was (no reads ), I think his action looks pretty strong squeezing from out of position for 20% of his stack, so readless I would assume he's got a big hand here and would just pass as we're not in good shape vs. a strong range.

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Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:18 PM
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Hi Dave,

Sorry for putting two hands in one thread and not giving any reads. I should have set the scene better. I am trying to learn two cash tabling and had one 5NL and one 10NL tables tiled and found I was missing some showdown action. Then had to open the re-player which obscured current action on the other table. Anyway excuses over


Both hands were in context of the same player, I could have put a third hand in were I got him earlier. As for reads there were no open limps on the 10NL table and quite a lot on the 5NL table which I mark orange. The 10NL table was all red (open raisers) and this specific opponent would sometimes do well then lose and re-buy $5 each time. So what is that a LAG short stack player?

I think I understand what you are saying in 77 hand. Raising the c-bet not a donk lead? Or with my check/call line to lead out on the turn? Not a fan of that don't we fold out good Ax maybe two pair? OK I am worried about TT on the turn but with my line (probably misguided) I'd be 3b on the turn and realize I'm behind . Actually the re-player didn't show it was AJ and made two pair on the river.

Agreed on the 99 hand. I did think of a min open to give me space to 4b - honest! And I'd have walked into AA.


Thanks for the analysis

Last edited by ForrestFive; Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 01:24 PM.. Reason: my check/call line
 
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Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:47 PM
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I think I understand what you are saying in 77 hand. Raising the c-bet not a donk lead? Or with my check/call line to lead out on the turn? Not a fan of that don't we fold out good Ax maybe two pair? OK I am worried about TT on the turn but with my line (probably misguided) I'd be 3b on the turn and realize I'm behind . Actually the re-player didn't show it was AJ and made two pair on the river.:
I prefer the check-raise, as I expect the villain to c-bet his entire range on this board when checked to, so you get an extra bet out of his non-ace hands. Check-call/bet line works better if the turn card brings back door draws, villains will suspect we peeled and picked up some kind of draw and may call us with a big non-ace pair type of hand, or raise with a big ace. But in this case I def. prefer check-raising the guy to get his c-bet in there and build the pot asap vs. a big ace should he have one.

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