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No matter what you do.....it's a bad beat. - Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:28 AM
Aus-Redda's Avatar
Since: Jun 2011
Posts: 30
My Question is....what can a player do with a playable hand against a limper.

I am getting smashed on PokerStars lately. I'm not a bad player....but I am sick of wankers. Fair enough he flopped a set.

I'm in position with 1 limper (the guy behind me) I decide to raise nothing special....3 or 4 times the big blind. Everyone else folds and the guy behind me flat calls.

The flop misses me, but gives me a strong flush draw. The flop hit him and he checked it down.

The flop goes chk chk.

I make my flush for free. He bets, I re-raise. He shoves all in. I'm not laying a K high flush here.

I can beat any str (other than a str flush), I beat any 2 pair, I beat trips.

Then he calls me an idiot for calling?

Last edited by Aus-Redda; Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 05:36 AM..
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:18 AM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,814
Hi Aus-Redda!

This isn't a bad beat because you were never at any point in time ahead in the hand. It is however a cooler.

What I do when I'm playing against any number of limpers is that my preflop raise will be to 3BB+1BB for each limper. By raising it for each limper, it will deter them from calling the raise.... or build a much larger pot for my better hands.

You played the flop correctly. With a flush draw, I'm checking behind to try to hit it. If I was the opp, I'd have been betting 1/2 the pot, both for value and to price out a straight or flush draw.

The turn is where the cooler kicks in, as it does give KJ the flush, but the opp gets a full house from the same card. When the opp bets, I would raise to 3X their bet and if the shove, it'll depend on what the chip stacks are and how the opp has been playing as to whether or not I will call their shove. Most opps, I will call, but there are a few opp types (tight/passive for example) that I'm laying down 2nd flush here, as they will only be betting with a better hand (nut flush or full house).

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Good advice! - Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:43 AM
Aus-Redda's Avatar
Since: Jun 2011
Posts: 30
I thank you for your detailed reply. I can learn from this.
Thank you.

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