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13lake07 Bankroll Builder - Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:58 AM
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Hello,

I haven't made any deposit yet, and I have't done any quiz/course either. I've only won 0.01 $ in a freeroll/freebuy tourney.

I've read a few posts here and I registered and watched live training Wcoop 63 with Chewme1 yesterday.

Also, this is one hand I've been replaying a lot and still can't figure out what the correct course of action was for that hand



Is there any other steps, what would I also need to do for the promotion ?

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:14 AM
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Hi 13lake07!

Welcome to the forum. Here is a link that will help to get you familiar with some of the options that PSO has to offer.

We will advise you what the next steps will be for you in this promotion within the next 24 hours.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Hi 13lake07!

With 48s from late position, I would fold this hand preflop. It is not a strong enough hand to be playing in a tournament into a large multi-way pot. Yes, the cards are suited, but they are not connected, as they have a 3-gap between them. Even if I would hit a flush with them, there are many other combination of clubs that can make a higher flush. The reward for playing a hand like this is not worth the risk.

Calling the 200 bet on the flop, is a marginal play. I'd be calling 200 into a pot that will be 1100 (18.2%). I have 9 outs to make a flush, so my hand has 18% equity to see the turn (2% equity per out per street).
To call the shove after me on the flop, I need to put in another 660 into a pot that will be 3760 (17.6%). Calling this is another marginal play, as my hand is worth 18% equity.

Good luck at the tables.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Thx for the hand breakdown, I'm still a long way from knowing statistical chances for poker, but I understand all the wrong choices I made.

First I entered with weak cards because I had more chips than the average on the table, which made me confident I can play crap cards and luck it out, which was not smart because the cards weren't even suited.

And then on the flop when I saw that I was 4/5 cards to a flush again I got carried away and wasted even more money calling that all-in.

After doing that I should have at least folded right there on the flop.

I'm glad that statistics show I had only 18% chance to win, which would also mean that it was wishful thinking from me that I would get 5,6,7 suited clubs on the flop

That would have probably been less than 1% chance

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Hi 13lake07,

Yes, you are eligible and welcome to the Bankroll Builder.

To get you started we'd like you to play some play money games (In the PokerStars lobby go to Hold'em > Play Money > No Limit) and using the Hand Replayer please post a hand that you have found difficult here in this thread.

Doing this will ensure that you know how to use the hand replayer tool and if you've any questions on it just ask us.

Also please attend one each of the 'Getting Started at PokerStars' and 'Bet Sizing' live training sessions. You'll find these sessions daily in the Live Training section.

Please post back here when you have done both these things and we'll move you on to the next stage.

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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:50 PM
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Here's the hand from play money game:

 
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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:26 PM
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I've attended First Impressions, Getting Started with PokerStars, Introduction to Bet Sizing and Entering a Cash Game Pot.

What's my next step ?
 
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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:27 PM
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Hi 13lake07!

Now it's time to study the Poker Basics course and after you've studied it, try to pass the quiz.

Once you've passed it we'll award you your first $2 and continue on from there.

Please let me know when you do this.

Good luck!

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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Thx though I have a problem, I have finishing reading all of the poker basics pages, and when I click basic assessment and click start the quiz I get a previous passed quiz delay restriction error.

I am 100% sure than it has been more than 24 hours since I've last tried to finish the quiz, it also says that you can try the quiz again every 6 hours, so a full day or more should reset the timer ?

EDIT: nvm its ok now it works.
I was able to enter the quiz about 20 mins after i made the post.

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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
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I've passed Poker Basics quiz, what's my next step ?
 
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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:53 PM
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Hi 13lake07!

Your first $2 will be credited into your account within 24 hours. Remember you can earn up to a total of $8 with this promotion.

Use this first $2 to then play ONLY the 1/2 cent real money tables only on PokerStars. Post back here when you get your first $2 and start playing these games, along with a hand that you had problems, or that cost you money, while playing with this $2.

Good luck!

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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:16 PM
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Thank you

I've gotten the $2,I'll play tommorow when Im fresh and come back here with hands I really do screw up
 
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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:19 PM
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Smart idea!

One thing I always want to do is that I make sure that I get a good night's rest and am in the correct frame of mind before I'm playing.

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Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
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Well, I've played and lost the $2

I've lost it to this unbelievable hand

should I have played it differently ?

 
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Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:10 PM
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What do I do now
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:22 PM
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Hi 13lake07!

That was a very unlucky hand. With AA, I would 3-bet and would size it at 3x the opp's previous bet (30 cents). When the opp 4-bets me, I'm very happy to get it all in preflop with AA. Unfortunately, the opp hit a Q, and QQ will win in this situation about 18.5% of the time.

Now it's time to study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

Once you've passed the quiz post back here and we'll continue on.

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Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:27 AM
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I've passed the Cash Game Quiz,

what is the next step ?
 
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Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:58 AM
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Hi 13lake07!

Congrats on passing the course. Please attend one of the 'Entering a Cash Game Pot' Live training sessions and the next $2 will be credited to your account within the next 24 hours. Remember to use the information learned in the course and training sessions when you use this $2 to play the 1/2 cent tables.

Good luck at the tables and please let us know what happens while playing, especially if there are any hands that you have problems with.

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Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Thank you

I've gotten the next $2, yay !

I might not be able to attend the next training live session because of the time zone difference, but if i do wake up before its over, I'll attend it
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2012, 09:45 AM
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I've gone up to about $3.70, and decided to play 2 tables at the same time and I lost it

Here's the 2 hands that I lost with on each table:





I haven't attended the entering a cash game pot live training the second time over this weekend because of lack of time, I will attend the one tonight.

What do I do now? Can I also qualify for any more of the $4 dollar left from the total $8 for the promotion now that I've lost the original $4 ?
 

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