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good play or bad play and was i committed ? - Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:53 AM
nickthebrit9's Avatar
Since: Dec 2009
Posts: 17
It was a 25c for 90 man sng and it was late i got tired but did i make a mistake here or was i pot committed ?

im in 2nd out of 4 left but chip leaderi swayy ahead we 3 al close


$5.78 1st (which I have not much chance)
$3.82 2nd
$2.89 3rd
$1.96 4th

chip leader villain was playing

VPR 34
PFR 15
AF 4.3

he had started as a rock but had opened up a lot

the other 2 were very tight and I hadnt been getting out of line either I was 20/13/5

Did I play QQ hand good on every street please ?

Was I pot committed with SPR of just under 4 ?


Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:24 PM
Drarr's Avatar
Since: Jan 2010
Posts: 33
Preflop is fine if it's your standard opening raise, you could reduce it though to a min bet or somewhere in between by this stage.

I'd probably bet a little less on flop. 35-60% of pot should achieve the same as a pot sized bet, depending on how your opponents are playing.

Once you are check raised it really depends on how your opponent has been playing, and what sort of hands and situations he is willing to risk a good % of his chips with, not just his stats.
Saying that though I'm probably not getting away from QQ here, especially when his play could.

This is just unlucky, but reducing your bet sizes to risk the least you can while still achieving what you wish to achieve will result in spots where you are less committed in the future.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:45 PM
ChewMe1's Avatar
Since: Jan 2012
Posts: 574
Hey nickthebrit

I agree with Drarr here, at this stage of the tournament a min raise or a 2.2/2.1x is more standard than the 2.5x raise these days.

I don't like betting anything more than half the pot here because a big bet might scare villain away and we are dying for action with our hand.

I would bet 3k into the 5900 pot and hope to get it all in.

As played I too would be calling the check raise all in, there are a gazillion hands,bluffs, and draws that we are crushing right now so calling here is a must and should of been exactly what we wanted to happen.

So villain flopped a small miracle, we are never getting away from this. Villain will be check shoving hands like 9 10+,J9,79,8x and flush draws. We have his range absolutely crushed into smithereens it was just unfortunate that he flopped 2 pair.

Cheers, Chris,
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:06 PM
nickthebrit9's Avatar
Since: Dec 2009
Posts: 17
Hi u2 thank you

I think at the time I bet pot to signify I wasnt bet foldin yet after the event I wondered if I had room to fold I started the hand with 24big blinds

It is nice to know that this time I didnt play it badly

Presumably his preflop call was bad or did he indeed have the correct implied odds ?

I thought he was on the flush draw and I was either ahead or at least had a good amount of equity

When he turns his T I doubt I could have gotten away even though I was in 2nd place (if i had folded I would have dropped to 4th plus I thought I could have been ahead)

Thanks again
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:48 PM
Drarr's Avatar
Since: Jan 2010
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by nickthebrit9 View Post
Presumably his preflop call was bad or did he indeed have the correct implied odds ?
Yep no where near right. Not sure what the correct odds would be off the top of my head (maybe something around 15-20/1). You want to be playing those types of hands in position for small amount chips and against multiple opponents, to ensure when you hit you get paid. Or as stealing hands when you are the aggressor.

Just calling out of position, in big blind situations against someone showing strength is just bad.

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