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5nl Zoom - QQ, Checking behind the turn? - Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:06 PM
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The UTG player an unknown single tabler playing quite a large stack, he open pre flop for 3x and I make a standard 3bet with my QQ to 9x. It fold back round to him and he flats.

The board comes down with an obvious straight draw, he checks o me and I feel this is a good spot to bet for value and protection. He calls my 2/3 pot bet for value and I'm not too worries, I think he will call with lots of worse hands such as pairs, draws and perhaps even overcards.

The turn peels a 5c putting a 4 card straight on board, he checks to me again and I was a bit unsure what to do, I decided to bet for value again as I thought that his 3-bet and flop calling range didn't contain a whole load of hands that got there on the turn.

However in hindsight I think this was a bad spot to bet, I'm not getting many (if any) better hands to fold. Similarly I don't think that many worse hands will call as hands that call the flop such as worse pairs can't really continue for another bet and nearly all draws just got there. Is it better to check behind aiming to call a small bet on the river attempting to catch any bluffs?

When he check raises like this I think I'm always behind and that it is an easy fold..?

Thanks for any help.

Oliver


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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
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Hey,

I think you pretty much answered this one yourself. On the turn, even hands like single pairs or over cards won't be calling another street because of the obvious big draw that got there. If you check behind then single pair hands might take a little stab on the river, or you could get a showdown without putting more money in and be ahead.

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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:45 PM
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However in hindsight I think this was a bad spot to bet, I'm not getting many (if any) better hands to fold. Similarly I don't think that many worse hands will call as hands that call the flop such as worse pairs can't really continue for another bet and nearly all draws just got there. Is it better to check behind aiming to call a small bet on the river attempting to catch any bluffs?
^^This. Not only any bluffs (not sure what bluffs he's going to have here tbh... AK?), but it's the best way to get a 2nd street of value from worse pairs like TT... he can get away from modest overpairs on the turn here but when we check behind, we're getting called on the river frequently because that seed of doubt is planted that we have AK and slowed down.

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When he check raises like this I think I'm always behind and that it is an easy fold..?
Yep, I'd say so.


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