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3 bet shove or how I played it? - Sun Nov 25, 2012, 06:24 PM
Ovalman's Avatar
Since: Feb 2011
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Maybe a hand to vent off steam but this is the MM Main Event. I'm looking a spot to get my chips in.

Villian UTG was my main worry, he had stats of 21% VPiP and 17% PFR which is pretty tight aggressive. Villian in cut of was 38% and 25% but only over a small sample of hands. I guessed I was ahead of his range range pre and post flop.

Should I squeeze here?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:26 PM
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Since: Jun 2012
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Hi Ovalman

I would be shoving here, as you say looking for a good spot to get the 12bb in, I think this is one. The UTG is definitely a worry but I wouldn't consider 21/17 TAG for a FR tournament (alhtough definitely not "LAG", somewhere in between), I think he would be raising AT and KQs with those stats, and also has a decent stack that he was possibly bullying with. And yeah you have the CO range crushed so I wouldn't be worried about him preflop. With that flop its a no brainer, just unlucky to run into the set

And btw having everyone fold would be a good outcome, a nice boost to your stack

Last edited by Barbzz; Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:28 PM..
just unlucky i think - Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:54 PM
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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
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Hi Ovalman!

With 12BB, with a min-raise and a call, I want to be shoving or folding here. I don't want to have to call, then fold (lose 1/6th my stack) and I don't want to let the opps see a card that could beat me.
To see if I should shove, I'll go to pokerstove and look at my hand equities against the opps ranges.

If I end up only against UTG (17% hand), my AQo has 57.1% equity, which is plenty to call since I'm the favorite.

If I end up against the CO only, with them playing a wider range, then I'm an even higher favorite.

If both stay, my AQo is worth 39.4%. But, if both stay, then my pot equity will be below 33% due to the chips already in the pot.. so this is a positive play too.

Since every situation is a +EV play, I'm going to shove my AQo preflop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:40 AM
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The money bubble was creeping up and I suppose I wanted some fold equity if I missed the flop. I was worried about AKo to tell the truth but in hindsight it was a scared money play rather than good aggressive poker.

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