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Bankroll Builder - Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:38 AM
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Hi, I am new to pokerstars can you please assist me with Bankroll Builder.
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:03 AM
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Hi,

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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:50 AM
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Hi, I am new to pokerstars can you please assist me with Bankroll Builder.
Hi,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promo!

The next thing that you will need to do is to attend one of the 'Getting Started' live training sessions.

These sessions can be found daily in the Live Training section.

Use the time you spend at these sessions wisely, for example, prepare some questions that you can ask the live trainer while you are attending.

Please let me know after you have attended this session.

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Completed - Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:19 AM
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Hi,

I have compelted the session, thanks for the hand history info.
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:10 PM
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I have compelted the session, thanks for the hand history info.
Hi GSAAN,

Perfect, we can see you on the list of attendees, did you find the session useful?

Next next play some 9-handed full-ring play money tables. Make sure the tables have no empty seats.

Find a hand that caused you difficulty or cost you chips and using the hand replayer post it here in the Forum.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Once you've posted your hand we will analyse it for you and then continue on from there.

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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:54 PM
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Ok so this is a spot i get into often, I raise preflop and end up in good position with AJ offsuit, not excellent cards but i endeded up getting all to fold but the blinds.

The flop is low and gives me a straight draw and 2 overcards and it gets checked to me, great perfect time for a continuation bet ... both call. By now im suspicious but given my preflop raise they shouldnt be holding trash.

The turn is again relatively harmless and its checked to me, im feeling a good sized bet here will chase them off wrong called by both .... by now im done with the hand and figure someone has pockets the big blind throws in his chips and I fold.

The big blind did have a big stack and is a relatively loose player but has folded before when someone has shown strong resistance. My real question is should I have been in this hand at all? should I have backed down alot earlier and saved chips or not knowing what he had should I have called his bet?

 
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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:40 AM
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Hi,


This is a decent hand to be opening for a raise in EP (early position). Our opening size of 4x the big blind is just a tad to big, 3x the big blind is an okay sizing sitting with our current stack depth.

On the flop we have a stack depth of about 35bb...this is a dry board that doesn't hit most blind ranges besides, 33 55 or Tx TT(would've 3bet pre-flop)..The main thing we need to consider here..how often are villains 1 and 2 calling flop cbets to see a turn card and what range of hands are they taking to show down?(based on previously played hands). If they are reverse floating often with (K high Qhigh Jhigh, or hands that can possibly pick up back door equity) there is nothing wrong with a cbet of about less than 1/2 pot as there could be some dead money on this flop and possibly the turn.

On the turn, we pick up an inside straight for the "wheel"(A to 5 straight)..when checked to us..checking behind is the optimal line as we do not want to "bet" and charge our self to draw to AAA JJJ or 2222 (10 outs) 22% equity vs. any "possible" Tx (example T7). Unless the villains fold a high percentage of the time to turn cbets..then maybe we can fire that 2nd barrel(bluff turn)


On the river, in this spot...a fold is fine..the only hands that we beat are air..there is certainly not to many hands in the villains range that have air that are check/calling 2 streets of bets on such a low dry board texture and betting the river..good fold.


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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:33 AM
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Completed.
 
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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:11 AM
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Hi,

Well done on the quiz

Your first Bank Roll Builder buyin will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours, please use this real money buy-in at a full table(9 players) 1/2c 9-max NLHE table.

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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:01 AM
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So it took a few days, I actually trippled up then went down again. Heres the hand that broke my back. KK vs AA I did have the feeling that he had the aces but i couldnt throw them away preflop.

I think this is just one of those hands that i was destined to lose alot.

I took the cash basics basics course as I had a feeling you would ask


 
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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:42 AM
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Hi,


This is a cooler. No worries!

Unless the villain has been playing extremely tight, then "maybe" we can consider folding pre-flop. But more times than not we will be ahead of almost all but 1 UTG 4bet jam range.

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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:39 PM
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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:20 AM
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Hi,

Well done on the Cash Game Quiz!

Your 2nd Bank Roll Builder will be awarded to you within the next 24 hours!


Best of luck to you at the tables.



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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:27 AM
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Im still hurting from this one, after losing twice with KK against 77 (first 77 hit a straight and second 77 hit quad 7's .... lucky 7's i guess) I was on tilt and had ak, flopped the K and lost all in against trip jacks. My question is would anyone else have made this same mistake?? the guy was new to the table and i put him on ace jack ...

PokerStars Zoom Hand #91182243103: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2012/12/23 7:00:10 ET
Table 'McNaught' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NewbishPlay ($1.03 in chips)
Seat 2: GSAAN ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 3: seve13061984 ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Cigonajus ($1.35 in chips)
Seat 5: herbalerv ($2.17 in chips)
Seat 6: Pilot909 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 7: JayBee1072 ($3.63 in chips)
Seat 8: elena36 ($0.49 in chips)
Seat 9: libanostar ($2.28 in chips)
GSAAN: posts small blind $0.01
seve13061984: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GSAAN [Kc As]
Cigonajus: folds
herbalerv: folds
Pilot909: raises $0.04 to $0.06
JayBee1072: folds
elena36: calls $0.06
libanostar: folds
NewbishPlay: folds
GSAAN: calls $0.05
seve13061984: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [5s Ks Jh]
GSAAN: checks
seve13061984: checks
Pilot909: bets $0.19
elena36: folds
GSAAN: raises $0.41 to $0.60
seve13061984: folds
Pilot909: raises $1.43 to $2.03 and is all-in
GSAAN: calls $1.21 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.22) returned to Pilot909
*** TURN *** [5s Ks Jh] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [5s Ks Jh 4c] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GSAAN: shows [Kc As] (a pair of Kings)
Pilot909: shows [Jc Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Pilot909 collected $3.72 from pot
 
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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Im still hurting from this one, after losing twice with KK against 77 (first 77 hit a straight and second 77 hit quad 7's .... lucky 7's i guess) I was on tilt and had ak, flopped the K and lost all in against trip jacks. My question is would anyone else have made this same mistake?? the guy was new to the table and i put him on ace jack ...

PokerStars Zoom Hand #91182243103: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2012/12/23 7:00:10 ET
Table 'McNaught' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NewbishPlay ($1.03 in chips)
Seat 2: GSAAN ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 3: seve13061984 ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Cigonajus ($1.35 in chips)
Seat 5: herbalerv ($2.17 in chips)
Seat 6: Pilot909 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 7: JayBee1072 ($3.63 in chips)
Seat 8: elena36 ($0.49 in chips)
Seat 9: libanostar ($2.28 in chips)
GSAAN: posts small blind $0.01
seve13061984: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GSAAN [Kc As]
Cigonajus: folds
herbalerv: folds
Pilot909: raises $0.04 to $0.06
JayBee1072: folds
elena36: calls $0.06
libanostar: folds
NewbishPlay: folds
GSAAN: calls $0.05
seve13061984: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [5s Ks Jh]
GSAAN: checks
seve13061984: checks
Pilot909: bets $0.19
elena36: folds
GSAAN: raises $0.41 to $0.60
seve13061984: folds
Pilot909: raises $1.43 to $2.03 and is all-in
GSAAN: calls $1.21 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.22) returned to Pilot909
*** TURN *** [5s Ks Jh] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [5s Ks Jh 4c] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GSAAN: shows [Kc As] (a pair of Kings)
Pilot909: shows [Jc Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Pilot909 collected $3.72 from pot
Hi,


I would have re-raised 24c to 30c with this hand pre-flop to get the initiative in the pot with a very strong hand.
We are equal in terms of stack size vs. Pilot909 (100bb). Even though we are out of position I'd want to isolate Pilot909 and get the pot heads up, if we are to play a multi-way pot it greatly decreases our hand strength post flop and it'll make for more difficult decisions post flop in terms of trying to hand read the villains.

On the flop, this is a "cooler" situation.
We can check>> call, check>> raise, bet>> call but either way the result at showdown would have been the same. Let's not try to be results oriented as this happens in poker, good decisions + strong starting hands in the long run will make up for this loss, no worries.

It just so happened that we ran in to one of the very few hands that have us beat. We can possibly consider check calling the flop to reevaluate the turn and maybe fold, but this line is entirely dependent on the sample size we have on the villain and their post flop tendencies.

Throughout the rest of your Bank Roll Builder training, please only play at a regular table of 9-max NLHE with all of the seats full and not Zoom. As all of your training is focused mainly on this format.

Please watch this live training session replay >>click here<< let me know once you have finished watching it!

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:34 AM
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I watched the replay,

I like the strategy and will use it for my next buyin however with a little more positional play on or 1 off the button that was not taken advantage of.
 

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