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The Final Three - Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Hello, this thread is about 9 man turbo sit'n'gos, which I spend the majority of my time playing.

Now I feel I play assured and mostly successful poker through the beginning and middle stages of a game. In the sense I'm confident in the plays im making, and I'm finding myself in the top three alot more often. I've only played a couple of hundred games and not thousands so I wouldn't say im a 'good' player, but personally I feel like i'm getting better in myself.

However, I've recently shark scoped myself and found the position I finish most in is 3rd (19%), and I know this is bad.I feel like once i've made the top three my rational decision making flies out the window, and its more luck than skill.

I don't know what hands are good against fewer opponents. I get nervous about raising with hands I wouldn't of earlier in the game. If im multi-tabling and i'm in the top three in all the games, I feel rushed and not in control.

So overall I'd like just general advice about how you play once there's fewer opponents, and the sort of ranges I'd be looking to raise with.
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:13 PM
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Ideally you should have a lot more firsts and thirds than 2nd's but don't worry about it, any profit is good, just concentrate on getting those top 3 places.

Go for the win when top 3, get your chips in first. Aggression is the key but you need the right aggression. Always be aware of your opponents styles and exploit them.
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:38 PM
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And I can't help you on what hands to play 3 handed as there are a lot of variables involved. Obviously you should be raising/ shoving any premium but you should also play the players. If you're up against tight passives then steal everything, if you're up against a maniac then let them hang themselves. You have to work out your opponents game and play accordingly.
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:39 PM
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I don't know what hands are good against fewer opponents. I get nervous about raising with hands I wouldn't of earlier in the game.

The fewer the players, the stronger hands become. Any hand you open with early in the tournament, you should be extremely confident playing with only three players. Take a look at some of Andre's heads up videos to see how wide the range gets short handed. Of course with three left you should not play quite that wide. Playing some heads up might be a good ideaas well. This will give you some practice at playing weak hands and also come in handy when you make it to the final two.

Spacegravy also has a six part series on SnGs that you will probably find quite valuable.

Good luck
Doug


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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:45 PM
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Have you watched Grayson Physioc's SnG videos? Once you've made it into the money, the stack sizes are often very small in relation to the blinds. You can't sit around waiting for decent hands. You should be open-shoving a very wide range of hands, especially if the other players are fairly tight.

See this video for examples of just how aggressive you need to be on the bubble and once you're in the money: http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...-Series-Part-4
 
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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyFishal View Post
Hello, this thread is about 9 man turbo sit'n'gos, which I spend the majority of my time playing.

Now I feel I play assured and mostly successful poker through the beginning and middle stages of a game. In the sense I'm confident in the plays im making, and I'm finding myself in the top three alot more often. I've only played a couple of hundred games and not thousands so I wouldn't say im a 'good' player, but personally I feel like i'm getting better in myself.

However, I've recently shark scoped myself and found the position I finish most in is 3rd (19%), and I know this is bad.I feel like once i've made the top three my rational decision making flies out the window, and its more luck than skill.

I don't know what hands are good against fewer opponents. I get nervous about raising with hands I wouldn't of earlier in the game. If im multi-tabling and i'm in the top three in all the games, I feel rushed and not in control.

So overall I'd like just general advice about how you play once there's fewer opponents, and the sort of ranges I'd be looking to raise with.
Early stages (so in this game anything up to and including 25/50 level) feel free to set-mine but dont consider raising with anything other than AJ-AK suited, AKo or QQ-AA. And dont consider going to war with anything but QQ-AA.

Be happy folding and waiting for your opponents to knock themselves out. Sure you will end up a lot the time in the top 3 with 1-2 opp with a MASSIVE chip lead but dont let that worry you.. worry about what your BB ratio is and that you are keeping true to the TAG style of shoving when short and being cautious when you are getting short.

If your opp has 100BB and you have 20BB you have plenty of time to get his chips over to you, dont panic yet.

In STT you can almost sit-out and let people whack each other off and reach the Top 3, its quite crazy... so on that basis imagine you are sitting out and only waking up when you have QQ-AA, thats a good tactic with/without set mining.

Once the levels start going up you can start making plays. You want to restrict yourself to higher pairs (i like 88+) and Ace high (I like AT-AJo, AQs+ and sometimes KQs depending on position)

Be wary that whilst you are sat back the maniacs have built a stack and will re-raise your raises even with rags or bottom pair to push you off the best hand (or thinking theirs is good) so only challenge them when you are dominating.

Overall if you are patient and when you play, play strong with the best cards, you can score 1-3 easily and HU without a worry.
 

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