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NL5 Q9s c-bet flop or no? - Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:49 AM
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hi.

would u c-bet flop here, usually i would but then again iv said before i used to just c bet 100% as pre flop raiser, so im being more carefull here i only have gutshot, and there is 2 callers and flop is wet, villain on button is marked red for tag, plus i remember searching him on PTR and their graffs were nananoko style, so maybe that made me check lol, other villain was playing around 24 tables.

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:48 AM
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Hi Taxed,

Why are we opening Q9s here? Not saying it's bad, it may be fine, but certainly it wasn't to play out of position vs. 2 strong players... hoping one or both blinds is a big fish and we are targeting them, that would be good.

I would generally c-bet here, and big like .40c as I'm probably only firing 1 bullet. If we check we are basically giving up but this is a reasonable board to rep a big ace and get hands like pocket pairs to fold... where as if we check these opponents will be prone to just betting and taking it.


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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:29 PM
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Ah, im a bit shocked u dont like opening here with Q9s

ill explain a bit coz i thought this was standard.

iv always opend all suited connectors and upto 3 gappers, i find them so much easier to play mostly coz i dont get too atached too them like AA and AK AQs types, i can fold to the 3 bet with them easier, and let go when they dont hit , bujt when they do hit there usually disgiused and u get payed off big time. but mostly im just stealing the blinds from like mp with them
also im gonna be cbet bluffing all dry boards with a high card anywya, so i see these as like u got more chances of geting payed off. i could go more into detail but better not

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:46 PM
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It's not standard, if you're always opening them regardless of position, opponents, and situation that's a leak imo. I didn't say I didn't like it here, I said I don't know if I like it, need to know why we're opening it first. If the answer is because you always open it, then I don't like it. The point is I don't think it's automatically profitable, it's only profitable in some situations and unprofitable in others. For example, tight players on our left and a huge fish in the blinds: profitable open for sure. Strong, aggressive winning players on our left and an aggressive 3-bettor or two: Not profitable (and maybe not great game selection lol).

If you use a stat tracker I'd recommend filtering your database for this type of spot... suited 3 gappers Q9s down to 52s (if you don't open those all the way down to 52, no worries, you won't have any to pick up then), preflop action facing you = unopened, PFR=true. If you're making money over all in these spots then keep at it. If you're not, then it's an area to take a closer look at.


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