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25NL Zoom 2p Unraised Pot - Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Villain 2 was 23/17, AF: 2.4 over 224 hands. He's a reg, I find him pretty much an ABC player who defends his blinds at times.



Preflop: Could have raised the limper in position. Or perhaps not enter the pot given his shallow stack size.

I decided to fastplay the 2 pairs on the Flop and we get Villain 2 flatting it. He could hold TPTK, overpair, 2 pairs, a set or a draw.

Turn he raises us. I decided to shove for value, hope that it's not the worst decision of all here. Think if we flat, we're just setting up a River all-in situation. There're a number of undesirable River cards which'll put us on a tough spot. Given that he could hold 22, 99, TT, J8, is this still a spot to fast play or just fold our hand??

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:06 AM
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reg ABC player check raises and calls turn . my ABC read is J8 or maybe but i dont think 86
 
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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Hey Awesome

I think a pretty large mistake has been made pre-flop. Not isolating an under the gun limp here to something like 4x is going to be our best bet.

If we get limp re-raised, so be it. Those times we lose the pot and give something up, but we gain more by isolating to 4x in my opinion.

On the turn I think this would be a great fold and it is based on your read on the player. He isn't bluffing, he isn't semi-bluffing.

I think the worst hand he is doing this with is the same hand as you, and he has more hands that are crushing us, namely J8 and bottom set.

So I think playing our hand fast is a good idea in this flop situation, but we have some new information now that has come to light where we now think we don't have a profitable continue versus the turn check-raise.

It might be a good spot to bet the turn though, where, our opponent checks and calls with all worse hands and checks and raises all better hands.
 
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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Hey Awesome

I think a pretty large mistake has been made pre-flop. Not isolating an under the gun limp here to something like 4x is going to be our best bet.

If we get limp re-raised, so be it. Those times we lose the pot and give something up, but we gain more by isolating to 4x in my opinion.

On the turn I think this would be a great fold and it is based on your read on the player. He isn't bluffing, he isn't semi-bluffing.

I think the worst hand he is doing this with is the same hand as you, and he has more hands that are crushing us, namely J8 and bottom set.

So I think playing our hand fast is a good idea in this flop situation, but we have some new information now that has come to light where we now think we don't have a profitable continue versus the turn check-raise.

It might be a good spot to bet the turn though, where, our opponent checks and calls with all worse hands and checks and raises all better hands.
 
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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Noted guys. J8 FTW. Preflop was a mistake not raising. But glad I played flop and turn fine
 

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