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9man SnG, playing flush draw out of position - Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Hello everyone,

This is the kind of a situation I run into very often and I still have not figured out how to play it correctly. If you can help me out and analyse this hand I would be really grateful to you.

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First of all is it even profitable to play hands like J9s in the early stage of an SnG? I usually call in this position because i am getting really nice immediate odds. However, it is sometimes really difficult to play it for me because all you can ever hope for on the flop is some kind of a marginal hand and nobody likes to play marginal hands this early on.

I did not have any good reads on the opponents but I could tell that the villain who opened the action from utg was more on the fishy side so i expected his range to be pretty wide even from utg (especially with a min raise). Against a better player I would not consider calling with J9s even for that good of a price.

My plan for the hand was just to check call the flop (if the price was good) and reevaluate on the turn. On the turn i had an open ended straight draw, flush draw and 2 overcards so i was feeling very good about my hand even though effectively i had only J high. I decided to donk bet into him for about 40% of the pot to 1) give myself a good price to draw 2) induce a reraise to get it all in. Even against a big pair i had about 35% equity so i would be willing to get it in on the turn. Does this make any sense or how should i proceed in the future? I am really lost in this...

Thank you,

Tom
 
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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:49 PM
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Hi Tom!

With J9s from the BB, while I'm out of position, I will call a min raise from a fishy player and hope to outplay them after the flop.

I flop a flush draw and since the opp in position was the one that raised preflop, I wil check to him. The opp bets 1/2 pot and the SB folds, so I need to see if a call makes sense.

I have to call 90 into a pot that will be 360 (25%). If only my heart outs are good, I have 9 outs (18% equity), so I'll have to fold. If the J's and 9's would be good too, then I can call the 90 as with 15 outs, my hand is worth 30%.

The turn gives me an OESD and a flush draw. I need to have the bets here be about 1/2 pot or less in order to be priced in to draw. Any larger bet would make it a negative play for me to be in the hand. I have two options here as I can either make a smaller bet and hope that I'm not raised, or I can check and see if calling makes sense. If the opp is not aggressive, I'd tend to make a 1/2 pot bet here and try to get the lead in the hand.

Unfortunately, I miss on the river and there isn't much I can do here but to give up. I do not want to try to bluff a fishy player early in a tourney, as they're most likely goign to call and I want to save my chips for a better situation.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:44 AM
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Good call on the flop, excellent bet on the turn...You took the initiative on the turn, he didn't raise you so you should have made a bet on the river as well of about 250...that was the only mistake for me
 

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