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5nl Zoom - QQ, 1 fish, 2 unknowns and lots of action. - Mon Jan 07, 2013, 05:47 AM
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Since: Jul 2011
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Orginal raiser is kinda fishy, don't have loads of hands but he has been openening alot. The button and small blind are unknowns but are both single tabling.

Pre-flop the fish opens for a minbet and I 4x his open as I think he'll call with the same range whether it 3x or 4x. The BTN then cold calls, I think his range here is lots of PP's as well as high suited broadways. The SB then cold 4bets, very big, it then folds back round to me and I really don't think I can continue.

I definately can't call so that leaves shoving or folding, I really don't like shoving as I'm over 150BB's deep and the size of the 4 bet is very intimidating. Given that this is zoom is this an easy fold?



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Mon Jan 07, 2013, 07:23 AM
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i dont know about what other people would do , but would only play 2 hands after that raise AA KK and i am not happy with KK but i shove. 150BB QQ is folded there i think even for 100BB best thing you will see is AK . u got 8BB in pot u have 142 still in your stack ,it was a great spot for him to make a move alot of money there for him to pick up. but u need to have seen him make that move befor to shove. he made a big bet maybe he had AK JJ or maybe KK and wanted to be heads up with u not 4 way. i think GF
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2013, 10:55 AM
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That action makes me feel a little sick. For 100bb, I think I stack off, hoping villain has AK, as the pot odds wouldn't be too bad, but this deep I fold, particularly as my edge comes from playing post-flop rather than getting all in pre.
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2013, 11:19 AM
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Hi Oliver,

I agree with kingkong and Arty, I just don't think it's going to be profitable to stack off 150+ bb's facing this action sequence without reads to the contrary. The SB's action looks super strong here... yes his 4b is oversized, but he's got 2 villains (you and the button) who have both shown a strong interest in this pot.

With reads that led me to define a range for the SB where I felt comfortable stacking QQ this deep I would go for it, but without any reads I think I'll let discretion is the better part of valor here and begrudgingly pass.


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