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6-max, ZOOM, 10NL, KK, correct fold?

6-max, ZOOM, 10NL, KK, correct fold? - Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:37 AM
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Since: Apr 2012
Posts: 6

Stats (VPIP/PFR/3bet% (#hands)):
Villain_4: 50/17/0 (6)
Villain_1: 50/33/33 (6)
Villain_3: 22/19/0 (26)

Villain_3 shoved really fast. When I folded I was quite sure that I made the correct fold. I don't think, that my opponent could have smth worse than KK or AA. But my fellow poker player says that I made a mistake, so now I have doubts.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,512
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Hi pdoenix,

It's an interesting spot. I am generally not folding KK preflop on 100 bb effective stacks without a very compelling reason to think my opponent will only have AA. Given that the sample sizes are small here, the original 3-bettor over the first 6 hands we've seen super aggro, and we've put 26 bb's in the middle already, I would make what is somewhat of a crying call here.

This may be a small aside, but how long you took to make your action could be important. Like for instance if you took a long time then I think V3's shove looks even stronger (he knew you were thinking about it and didn't care, he was pre-action shoving regardless, that leans him towards AA imo). If you only took like 3 seconds, it's possible he pre-action all-in'd over V1 because the guy is a maniac and he was simply expecting you to fold, not 4b. This makes his range wider imo, AK, QQ, JJ at least.

Regardless, if I assume a range of QQ+, AK then this is an easy call, and that in and of itself is a really tight range. Although if ever I was going to put a guy on specifically AA, a TAG cold 5-betting all in would fit into that mold, I think it's probably just too restrictive here on limited reads and I would go ahead and get the rest of the way in after putting 26% of the effective stack in the middle. Make no mistake though, I'm not fist pumping, I'm throwing up a bit as I click call.

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