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Bankroll Builder - Tue Feb 05, 2013, 06:30 PM
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Hi there,

I`m new to PokerSchool, and have completed the "poker basics" quiz already but have never made a deposit. Am I eligible for the bankroll builder promotion?
 
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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 12:25 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 01:06 AM
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Hi PocketRev,

You are eligible for the Bank Roll Builder promo!

The next thing that you will need to do is to attend one of the 'Getting Started With Pokerstars' live training sessions. Please let me know after you have attended this session.

Also, you can be practicing on the play money NL full ring tables and please post a hand that you were not sure about, using the hand replayer. Here's a short video on how to use the Hand Replayer


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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 01:09 PM
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OK, here's one example hand, mainly to be sure I've got the procedure down for posting hands. I will play some more and post some more interesting hands as they come up.

Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Here is another one, which I won, but suspect I could have raised higher earlier and increased the pot.

Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Last edited by PocketRev; Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:52 PM.. Reason: Added 2nd hand
 
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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 06:42 PM
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Hi PocketRev!

One big tip for you. When playing a cash table, ALWAYS wait for the BB. Having to pay extra blinds will be a huge drain to a bankroll over time.

With A6 from early position, if I had a chance, I'd muck this hand immediately. Just because I have an A does not mean that it is a good hand. From early postion, I only want to be playing premium aces (AQ, AK). I'm mucking all other aces.
If I did raise, then I would make a standard raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 3 limpers, I'd have to raise to 60.
Playing marginal hands from early position will normally get a player into trouble due to the fact that I get no information about the opponents hand before I have to act.
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Once again, I do not want to pay the extra BB. I'm going to wait until the blind.
With KK, I'm going to make a standard raise (just like every hand that I'm going to play). With 2 limpers, I'll raise to 50. I want to keep my raises standard, as this helps to conceal the strength of my hand.
I see a 5-way flop that brings a pair. I need to make a lead bet here and due to the fact that there are so many opps in the hand, I'll make a pot-size bet of 130.
The turn brings a second pair and since there is now only one opp, I'll make a 1/2 pot bet. If the opp raises, then I'll need to muck and if they call, I'll want to check down the pot on the river unless the river is a K. My hand does have showdown value, but an opp calling all these bets most likely has me beat.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 08:47 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to consider position at all.

I just came back from the Live training sessions. I did the Getting Started One at 8 followed by Bet Sizing at 8:20.
 
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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Hi PocketRev!

Now we want to get you playing on the real money tables. Next up, and spend some time on this one , study the Poker Basic Course and take the basic assessment quiz at the end of that course.

Once you have passed this quiz, please let us know and your first buy-in will be credited into your account within 24 hours of passing it and notifying us. Remember you can earn up to a total of $8 with this promotion.

Use this first buy-in to then play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables only on PokerStars. Post back here when you get your first buy-in and start playing these games and we'll continue on from there.

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Thu Feb 07, 2013, 11:02 AM
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I actually had already done the basic poker course and written the quiz before I found out about the bankroll builder at all. However, I only passed with 71%, so maybe i'll try again and see if the live training leads to an increase in score.

OK, scratch that. It seems that you can't retake the quiz once you have passed.

Here's me thinking I've flopped a pretty good hand and horribly over-committing:

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Thu Feb 07, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Hi PocketRev!

Congrats on passing the quiz. Your first buy-in will be credited into your account within 24 hours. Remember you can earn up to a total of $8 with this promotion.

Use this first buy-in to then only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Don't worry if you lose this first buy-in as you will be able to earn another buy-in should this happen.

Use all that you have learned so far to try some real money games (1/2 cent tables). Post any hands that you have difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze them for you.

Also, please attend the 'Bet Sizing' live training session. This session can be found in the Live Training section.

Please let me know when you receive the buy-in and attend the training session.

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Thu Feb 07, 2013, 11:38 PM
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I have received the transfer. Also, I attended the Bet Sizing course this past Wednesday...I was still interested after the introductory course so I did bet sizing too. I have cash basics scheduled for Saturday.

I played the 1/2 tables and have increased my bankroll to $3.01

I'm finding the real money games a lot different from play money...a lot more people fold, far fewer hands go to showdown at all. No maniacs going all in on every hand.

Here's a hand where I made some mistakes:



Here's the hand where I won back some of my previous missteps. Most of the rest of it was just stealing the blinds.


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Fri Feb 08, 2013, 02:31 AM
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I have received the transfer. Also, I attended the Bet Sizing course this past Wednesday...I was still interested after the introductory course so I did bet sizing too. I have cash basics scheduled for Saturday.

I played the 1/2 tables and have increased my bankroll to $3.01

I'm finding the real money games a lot different from play money...a lot more people fold, far fewer hands go to showdown at all. No maniacs going all in on every hand.

Here's a hand where I made some mistakes:



Here's the hand where I won back some of my previous missteps. Most of the rest of it was just stealing the blinds.

Hi PocketRev

Interesting hands! I recommend you focus on your bet sizing. It was an issue in both hands.

First hand AQo: I like your preflop raise. However, it was a bit big. 8 cents would be standard. By raising more, you force many of the hands you are beating to fold.

On the flop you have a flush and straight draw. This is good, but you do not have a made hand. Moreover, you are not drawing to the nut flush with an A. I would suggest calling the flop bet rather than raising. This allows you to stay in the hand and reevaluate on the turn. Furthermore, min-raising is not good. You created a spot where the villain could shove on you due to his short stack. Min-raising in general is not a good idea post flop. If you have a monster, min-raising is often a tell. If you have a good hand like top pair top kicker, min-raising gives the villain good odds to continue with the hand and perhaps out drawing you. If you are bluffing (siemibluffing) a min-raise doesn't get too many villains to fold.

As played, folding to the all in is fine.

Second hand AA: Preflop you raised a bit small. Make it 8 rather than 6. You are out of position and big pairs like AA play best against a single opponent.

Your flop bet was good, a bit more than half gives anyone drawing for a flush poor odds. Your turn bet was perhaps a bit large again. You don't want to get valueowned. This is where you bet so much that all the hands you are beating fold, and only the hands beating you call.

The river was actually pretty scary. Be careful not to overplay top pair hands. This turned out nicely though. Nice pot

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri Feb 08, 2013, 07:22 PM
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So my fortunes have changed. I'm now down to 18 cents...not enough to buy in to any game. Below are the two main hands where I blundered away my bankroll:



 
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Fri Feb 08, 2013, 08:08 PM
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So my fortunes have changed. I'm now down to 18 cents...not enough to buy in to any game. Below are the two main hands where I blundered away my bankroll:

Hi Rev,

Fold preflop! This hand should not be played under any circumstances that don't involve the word "steal", or the rare fantastic pot odds to call a micro stack all in. In this case you have neither happening, it's a terrible hand in early position limping in.

Raising with a draw on the flop is ok, but when the villain calls you're behind, and you're not getting him to fold strong 1 pair hands, so just check back the turn and take a free card, and give up the river when you don't improve.


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Fri Feb 08, 2013, 08:09 PM
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This hand is ok to open for a steal from this position if the opponents are tight/passive, or for value against very loose players although it's marginal in this regard (very thin value at best).

I like your flop and turn bets, but when the villain clicks back the turn and min-raises, I think it's time to let the hand go... we are not really beating too much in his value range. With QJ it's tricky as it's possible the villain might overvalue hands like J8s which we are beating, or be making a raise with a hand like KhTh which has picked up additional outs to make a big hand, so I don't fault calling and re-evaluating the river. This is one of the worse river cards for us though, I would just check and fold, if he bets now we can only beat a bluff and it seems unlikely he'll show up with a bluff taking this line.


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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:04 AM
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I passed the cash game quiz this morning. What is my next step toward releasing the next buy-in?
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:43 PM
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Hi PocketRev!

Please do not do things until instructed to do so. It will not make the process go faster, it will actually make it take longer.

Have you attended the Bet Sizing live training? This needs to be done before the next step.

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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:16 PM
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Indeed I have attended the bet sizing live training as instructed.

I think it's starting to work a bit. I just placed 3rd in a free money NLTH tournament. I've never been above 100 before.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:24 PM
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Hi PocketRev!

It's time to now attend the Cash Basics live training session.

Also, study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

Once you've passed the quiz and attended the live training session, post back here and we'll continue.

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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
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I have passed the quiz and attended the cash game training session. I attended the bet sizing one again since this is one of my weak points. I re-read the poker basics course to review anything I missed the first time, and because the fundamentals are your foundation.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Hi PocketRev!

Congrats on passing the quiz. The next buy-in will be credited to your account within 24 hours. That's why I put in to post here when you have completed them, as I need to go into our system and do a couple things, so that the buy-in is released.


Good luck at the tables.

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