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interesting spot - Tue Feb 05, 2013, 07:58 PM
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its a 6 max hyper satty top 2 get the same ticket and 3 get 4c :P at first you think call then fol call fold really tough spot when you think about it icm wize because there is no diference between 1st and 2nd
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Tue Feb 05, 2013, 08:43 PM
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Spots like this are really annoying but in sattys it's very important not to risk your tournament life without the nuts essentially. Especially in spots like this with a very short stack. Only play pots where you are likely to bust the short stack and I wouldn't even call a shove like the one you showed with AA.



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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 07:30 AM
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Hey adohole

Very close! I think folding will show a bigger profit in the long run but that's just an educated guess. If we call and win we have pretty much secured ourselves a victory but if we fold it's likely that Player 2 will be forced to go all in before we are anyway.

I think this is a close one because if player 2 doubles up then we will have similar stack sizes. With that being said, player 2 doesn't have much fold equity with just 4 bb's so it's very likely that he will be forced to go all in or call all in with a non premium hand which increases the chances of him being knocked out in 3rd place.

So overall I think folding is best because even if player 2 was to double up then we would have a similar stack size to him which is way better than being the short stack. AK is likely to be the best hand but there's a ton of hands in player 1's range that have plenty of equity against it.

Good hand, I would like to what a very solid hyper turbo reg would do. Cheers, Chris.
 
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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Ummm yuck spot, but I gotta agree with Chris. (Because second is first) if the shorty folds here, hes left with 3 blinds, and will very shortly be standing really wide to not blind out. You have 10 left if you fold, which in most scenarios will get your seat. I would rather shove king high into the shorty than call off the big stack shove.
I have to disagree with fadyen on calling with aces though..
Btw I'm not the solid HT reg Chis is referring to. Just an HT guy...


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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 12:19 PM
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I put this into an ICM calculator, which confirms AKo is an ICM fold if the villain is shoving an approximate range of 1/4th of starting hands. According to ICM the only profitable call here for us is with AA.


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Wed Feb 06, 2013, 06:31 PM
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ty dave i was 9 tabling and when i saw the exact stack sizes i was like o man i should have folded then started thinking and just got confuised :P. ty guys. but 1 thing i think he is shoving anything from 30-60% here


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